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astrobloke
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Nice guy or bad boy ?
« on: Jan 14th, 2006, 2:58am » |
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Time for some controversy and a challenge to the ladies to be frank and not speak from political correctness 
Is it true that the nice guy always misses out ?
Why do so many women complain that men are all a__holes and still they overlook the nice guy who would treat them well and appreciate them ?
Maybe some women unconsciously choose a man who will treat them how they feel they deserve to be treated (and then cry on the shoulder of their nice-guy friend about how their bf mistreats them  ).
Guys who have been there will know the score. If the girls mother likes you, you're doomed 
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Wicked_Witch
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Re: Nice guy or bad boy ?
« Reply #1 on: Jan 16th, 2006, 10:23am » |
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All I can say, astro is that all the nice guys seems to be taken or not looking at all. . Take note of this, too. Nice guys always stay in the background ready to catch the girl should she fall. That's why the a__holes get there first, ok?
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thebeast
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Re: Nice guy or bad boy ?
« Reply #2 on: Jan 24th, 2006, 7:12pm » |
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Well I think a guy can be both. But I admit I dont like to be called a nice guy. Guys who are nice for the most part , its more difficult for them to get things accomplished, and more importantly, its more difficult for them to get what they really want. What does a nice guy get? Well the only thing he really gets is the "Gee you are a nice guy" compliment and thats pretty much it. Maybe a kiss on the cheek or a hug or a pat on the back. I bet if you take all the successful males in the world and ask how they got to where they are at today...I am willing to bet the way they got there was not by being nice. Its very competitive in my society and being nice just doesnt cut it . Now pretending to be nice does get things done. In college to get in a program like medicine or law or anything else that requires futher education than just a bachelors degree...the true nice people dont get selected as much as the a holes. Why? Because nice people tend to give up. Nice guys are more like a follower than a leader. They dont finish things. The people on the boards that do the interviews can spot this a mile away. Nice guys cant beat or adjust to the system so they usually quit due to some ethical concerns they have or they are just to nice. Students are very competive for this positions and they will do just about anything to get them. Including stab you in the back. Its a gray area because if u really think about it you cant be nice and get what you truely want. You can be honest and not be perceived as nice which is the road I choose to follow. I have had some success with that approach. But that dont always work either. And I know for a fact that most woman really dont want a nice guy. I saw Jenifer Lopez last night on Jay Leno and she said quote "women prefer bad guys"and pretty much every woman in the audience clapped thier hands in agreement. J Lo a woman who could have any man she wanted and she prefers a bad guy. So you women who say all the nice guys are taken are really just lying to yourselves because all the nice guys are more than available. Or you say all the good guys are taken...but what you really mean is all the good guys who you perceive as being good are taken but the fact of the matter is that these guys arent necessarily good or nice. The fact of the matter is a woman wants a man who is not a wimp and who gets things done and who gives her what she needs. She may think she wants a nice guy but I dont think she really does. She says she wants a nice guy and then maybe she gets one then she is not happy. Why? Well because nice guys wont argue with them most of the time. Even when a nice guy is right he gives in. Soon the woman will be bored of this and then what? Well she wants another nice guy but maybe one who is not as nice as the one she is with now. Women usually have no idea what they want as far as men goes. They want a fairy tale. Then when they get this fairy tale that they think they got they become bored.
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Wicked_Witch
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Re: Nice guy or bad boy ?
« Reply #3 on: Jan 25th, 2006, 6:15am » |
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I beg to differ, Joel. First of, JLO is a celebrity. They do and say everything to entertain their audience. How can you be so sure he really wants a bad guy? And in every competitions...its always coz the bad guys always fights dirty while the nice guy do things by the book, or by the rules. And please..there is a big difference between a nice guy and a boring guy.  And because they are women, they do not have much inclinations to make the choice. If they become too aggressive, they will be termed as easy-to-get. And men usually just play with them. If they wait in the background, the guy will be taken by another right under her nose. And too...the "simpler" women much prefer to wait to get noticed first than to "attack", meaning to go after the guy of their choice.
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astrobloke
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Re: Nice guy or bad boy ?
« Reply #4 on: Jan 25th, 2006, 7:22am » |
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on Jan 24th, 2006, 7:12pm, thebeast wrote:| Women usually have no idea what they want as far as men goes. They want a fairy tale. Then when they get this fairy tale that they think they got they become bored. |
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I absolutely agree with this statement. Just look at the romance novel stereotype of the man who relentlessly persues the woman until she becomes overwhelmed by his romantic gestures and falls in love with him. Bah! what a crock!
Such behaviour in reality is likely to get a man branded as a stalker (unless its the man she already decided she really wanted in the first place).
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astrobloke
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Re: Nice guy or bad boy ?
« Reply #5 on: Jan 25th, 2006, 7:30am » |
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From my observations of women who complain that "all men are a__holes" , such women choose the same type of man time and time again, and then have the audacity to put down an entire gender
When I have seen such comments my response is normally something like "there is only one element constant in all of your relationships, and thats you."
Yep its blunt and the truth can hurt, but nothing will ever change for these people until they accept responsibility for their own choices in partners.
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thebeast
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Re: Nice guy or bad boy ?
« Reply #6 on: Jan 25th, 2006, 6:59pm » |
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on Jan 25th, 2006, 6:15am, Wicked_Witch wrote:| [color=red][b]I beg to differ, Joel. First of, JLO is a celebrity. They do and say everything to entertain their audience. How can you be so sure he really wants a bad guy |
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J Lo is a woman and she is married to a bad guy and the only relevant fact due to her being an entertainer is she can have any guy she wants and she chooses a who she considers not to be nice.
on Jan 25th, 2006, 6:15am, Wicked_Witch wrote:| [color=red]And in every competitions...its always coz the bad guys always fights dirty while the nice guy do things by the book, or by the rules. |
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Well it may be dirty but its usually within the rules and the only important thing is winning and nice guys hardly ever win
on Jan 25th, 2006, 6:15am, Wicked_Witch wrote:[color=red]
And please..there is a big difference between a nice guy and a boring guy. |
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I never said nice guys were boring...I said women will soon become bored with nice guys.
on Jan 25th, 2006, 6:15am, Wicked_Witch wrote:| [color=red]And because they are women, they do not have much inclinations to make the choice. If they become too aggressive, they will be termed as easy-to-get. And men usually just play with them. If they wait in the background, the guy will be taken by another right under her nose. |
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Thats exactly why women should be more agressive. I know what you are saying but have you ever heard the early bird gets the worm?
on Jan 25th, 2006, 6:15am, Wicked_Witch wrote:| [color=redAnd too...the "simpler" women much prefer to wait to get noticed first than to "attack", meaning to go after the guy of their choice. |
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Well if she really wants something she should go for it in my opinion. Its a fact that there are more females than males on the earth. If she waits around to long she gonna never get what she wants.
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Wicked_Witch
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Re: Nice guy or bad boy ?
« Reply #7 on: Jan 27th, 2006, 3:40am » |
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Quote:| Well if she really wants something she should go for it in my opinion. Its a fact that there are more females than males on the earth. If she waits around to long she gonna never get what she wants |
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And risks being branded as cheap or easy and give the person an edge so he can play around with you? No way! I think I'll wait to get noticed. If he doesn't..its his loss
Quote:| I never said nice guys were boring...I said women will soon become bored with nice guys |
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I think this is a case to case basis. If the woman is looking for a long lasting relationship, I am sure she will not get bored with a nice guy. But if the woman is only playing around and is just out to prove something, I am sure also that when the excitement wore itself out, she will easily discard the man for the next nice guy.
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When someone plays "dirty" it always follows that he disregarded rules, that's why it is called "dirty".
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Re: Nice guy or bad boy ?
« Reply #8 on: Jan 27th, 2006, 5:09am » |
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I think it all depends on how a woman defines "nice guy". Women have different views about nice guy. Some women says their men is nice but others would say...what's nice in him? he's a complete blah blah blah etc etc. Woman has to find her match, she may find it nice but to others he might not. But who cares, as long as it passes her judgement and she can live with it.
By the way, I think I married a nice guy. For almost 8 years of being married now, I would say we've experienced quite a lot of situations already that would test our union. But not boredom yet. But i think boredom comes in when both of you failed to be creative,(opps don't be kinky there...being creative covers a lot) failed to appreciate what one has to offer, lack of cooperation and communication. Any relationship requires help in both parties and definitely not a sole job. He's not perfect but he's nice. He fits my definitin of being Mr. Nice Guy ...
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Re: Nice guy or bad boy ?
« Reply #9 on: Jan 27th, 2006, 2:14pm » |
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