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(Message started by: okasantina on Oct 29th, 2004, 12:04pm)

Title: What Is Marriage All About???
Post by okasantina on Oct 29th, 2004, 12:04pm
"DONT GET MARRIED!"  is a joke that i usually tell my single colleages. Like most jokes its half meant. Marriage is hardwork, but ppl are more seem to prepared for the one day wedding than for the lifetime that follow it....Matrimony involves another grown person with set of mind and behavior.  Well the other half of the joke is...."Why marry?"  People who rush to say "I do" usually dont know what theyre saving "I do" too.

What is "i do" to u? and to everyone...is it worth saying...is it a vow, a sacrifice or what???

Share ure views about it..........i know cuz mymy and cuzin chelle  will react on this...LOL!

keep on postingggggggggg...

Title: Re: What is Marriage all about???
Post by chelle on Oct 29th, 2004, 7:20pm

on 10/29/04 at 12:04:49, okasantina wrote:
"DONT GET MARRIED!"  is a joke that i usually tell my single colleages. Like most jokes its half meant. Marriage is hardwork, but ppl are more seem to prepared for the one day wedding than for the lifetime that follow it....Matrimony involves another grown person with set of mind and behavior.  Well the other half of the joke is...."Why marry?"  People who rush to say "I do" usually dont know what theyre saving "I do" too.

What is "i do" to u? and to everyone...is it worth saying...is it a vow, a sacrifice or what???

Share ure views about it..........i know cuz mymy and cuzin chelle  will react on this...LOL!

keep on postingggggggggg...


u got that right cuzt
[smiley=crazysmile.gif] boy  yeah mariage is full time 24 7 job if in my job i need a day off well i think i need it for marriage that is if im married, lmao..... like i always said marriage is too sacred, i just dont understand in some way some people get divorced after, and boy they were so serious infront of the altar and stuff yet inside thier house they cussin each other and all that unpleasant jazzy stuff, well i aint sayin much but i think its a Single rule for me as this for me  is like a part time job that ui get time to relax have fun spend time to anyone u dear feel like........... yeah someday i will marry someone but its got to someone a great player in life in relation and family etc etc  hes got to be the one that is so eager to score for touch down or home run ..lol

That's all cuzt i got some other opinion but that's all for now lmao [smiley=crazysmile.gif] [smiley=crazysmile.gif]

Title: Re: What is Marriage all about???
Post by mylane on Oct 29th, 2004, 8:40pm

on 10/29/04 at 12:04:49, okasantina wrote:
"Why marry?"  People who rush to say "I do" usually dont know what theyre saving "I do" too.


Just for my initial comment since this topic is so delicate and requires a lot of thinking...lol ;D

Nowadays, brides should not say "I do" anymore, they should reply the priest  "I did" cause mostly they are pregnant for 3 or 4 months...lol ;D

Title: Re: What is Marriage all about???
Post by chelle on Oct 29th, 2004, 9:06pm
thats all u think about bugger is to lick and poke about  [smiley=crazysmile.gif] [smiley=crazysmile.gif] [smiley=crazysmile.gif]

well in some piont its right better be safe than sorry:P:))

Title: Re: What is Marriage all about???
Post by chelle on Oct 29th, 2004, 9:15pm
well there u go thats what i been waitin on bugger a nice decent answer from u hahahahahahhahaha:P
thats just a good as touch down hahahahhaa way to go bugger [smiley=icon_drink.gif]

Title: Re: What is Marriage all about???
Post by chelle on Oct 29th, 2004, 9:38pm
tackle tackle tackle or i scrum it out of ya hahahahhahahhahaha

Title: Re: What is Marriage all about???
Post by chelle on Oct 29th, 2004, 10:05pm
i've heard that one before [smiley=smash.gif] [smiley=icon_drink2.gif]

Title: Re: What is Marriage all about???
Post by chelle on Oct 29th, 2004, 10:28pm
but its always been like that bugger dont u think:P

Title: Re: What is Marriage all about???
Post by chelle on Oct 29th, 2004, 11:05pm
i dont got too if i dont want to do i?

depends on situation really:P

Title: Re: What is Marriage all about???
Post by okasantina on Oct 30th, 2004, 3:13am

on 10/29/04 at 20:40:49, mylane wrote:
Just for my initial comment since this topic is so delicate and requires a lot of thinking...lol ;D

Nowadays, brides should not say "I do" anymore, they should reply the priest  "I did" cause mostly they are pregnant for 3 or 4 months...lol ;D



hahahahaha cuz...ure damn right there...but isnt that something...at least the man knows how to say "OK, Lets get married."  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: What is Marriage all about???
Post by okasantina on Oct 30th, 2004, 3:16am

on 10/29/04 at 19:20:16, chelle wrote:
like i always said marriage is too sacred, i just dont understand in some way some people get divorced after, and boy they were so serious infront of the altar and stuff yet inside thier house they cussin each other and all that unpleasant jazzy stuff, well i aint sayin much but i think its a Single rule for me as this for me  is like a part time job that ui get time to relax have fun spend time to anyone u dear feel like........... yeah someday i will marry someone but its got to someone a great player in life in relation and family etc etc  hes got to be the one that is so eager to score for touch down or home run ..lol



Yeah cuz...its really difficult as u may seem...but its worth the wait especially when the road ure takin is straight w no curves at all...got me? ;)

Title: Re: What is Marriage all about???
Post by mylane on Oct 30th, 2004, 11:46am

on 10/30/04 at 03:13:48, okasantina wrote:
hahahahaha cuz...ure damn right there...but isnt that something...at least the man knows how to say "OK, Lets get married."  ;D ;D ;D


hmmm.... you think it's fair cuz tina? They guy will marry you cause your are pregnant or mainly because of the baby.

What if, you never get pregnant, you think he will still ask to marry you?

I don't think it's  fair. Very unfair on the woman's part. Just my opinion.

Title: Re: What is Marriage all about???
Post by mylane on Oct 30th, 2004, 11:52am
Marriage here in the Philippines is forever while love is not.

Eventhough there is an annullment BUT the fact that you once married a guy will still remain like that. Mainly  because that's how society molded that kind of thinking.

I would agree if they will imposed a DIVORCE in PI. This is one of the reason why I wanted Lacson to win...lol ;D

Think about this, the large population of PI are all roman catholics and the religion would not agree on having a divorce in this country but how come those catholics countries have divorce like spain and mexico?

Very unfair.

Title: Re: What is Marriage all about???
Post by okasantina on Oct 30th, 2004, 12:27pm

on 10/30/04 at 11:46:22, mylane wrote:
hmmm.... you think it's fair cuz tina? They guy will marry you cause your are pregnant or mainly because of the baby.

What if, you never get pregnant, you think he will still ask to marry you?

I don't think it's  fair. Very unfair on the woman's part. Just my opinion.



Cuz he made u pregnant....and u become pregnant cuz u like it too...so whats wrong w that? Unless ure raped by him...if there is no love at all...and u f**ked him...what is that supposed to mean? he ask u for marriage cuz he needs to give his child his name and same for ure assurance. There are lots of man who are afraid of responsibilty of being a father and a husband...those men how can ask for marriage may seen to realize that this is the right time to settle down. Cuz some of them are tired of goin out tired of f**kin whose girl on the street...u know....they need to be serious in their life...Its not unfair when the man propsed u to marry him cause of the baby??? cuz u like it too...u two made the baby...so why u have to think about being unfair or not?? Its PRIDE ure talkin not the fairness...well u can just say... "No i cant marry you..cuz i know and i feel ure goin to marry me cuz of our kid...what is that?????IS that a one day affair??

Well if ure not pregnant at all...good for you...u two both can feel if its the right time to settle down..its like..u dont want to be away from him for the rest of ure life...its like...u want to live and grow old w him thats the feeling...BUT! if u dont feel anything like that...its ok if he still dont propose to u...who knows???

Its a man and a woman to decide...wether its unfair or not..why u wanted to be fooled if u think he doesnt love u at all and he only wanted to u is sex??? open ure eyes b4 u make such decision of making love w o marriage......and that will come along way..... ;D

Title: Re: What is Marriage all about???
Post by lou_la_lou on Oct 30th, 2004, 5:45pm
???well to me marrage is one of the greatest things that can happen to 2 people in love. sharing each others happyness and sadness is part of it . to me marrage isnt a easy task. its the 2 of you thats has to keep your love flowing along. sometimes there more then 2 involed in it too. but  knowing   there is someone waiting for you when you come home from work or jus being out is the greastest feeling in the world.its not jus the sex either in marrage its the closeness of the 2 of you hugging and cuddleing as well. alot of lil things ina marrage can make it so nice. but i could go on for ever about this subject. but deep down  itseeing the smile you put on each others face that really counts wow this makes me alil sad  :'( thinging of whut you once had until its to late :'( your heart will tell you when its time to get married i am sure .. ty  :-*

Title: Re: What is Marriage all about???
Post by okasantina on Nov 1st, 2004, 10:55am

on 10/30/04 at 17:45:47, lou_la_lou wrote:
 itseeing the smile you put on each others face that really counts wow this makes me alil sad  :'( thinging of whut you once had until its to late :'( your heart will tell you when its time to get married i am sure .. ty  :-*



Awwwwwwww lou la lou ...that makes me so sad too :'(  anyway ... its better too late than never u know... ;)

Title: Re: What is Marriage all about???
Post by fish_drownedgurl on Nov 1st, 2004, 1:11pm
when tina asked me bout what is marriage......hmmmm

i answered her i dun wanna think about marriage...its like commiting a suicide hehehehhe! oopssssiiee daisssieee errrrrr.....perhaps its juz im enjoying ma life not thinking bout that thing, alot of things that will come on ma way and gonna happen 1st before  gettin serious in thinking that thing... ( hey jod! why are you answering the question about what is marriage if you not thinking bout it right now!! go to another topic to answer!!!) ehem! lolz

errrrr

Title: Re: What is Marriage all about???
Post by gracia on Nov 3rd, 2004, 8:27pm

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marriage is about commitment and love and exciting times as the babies arrive      


there are cases that babies may not arrive nelson.
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For me....Marriage is a union of two hearts, in love with each other, ready to face a more challenging life ahead, willing to take the risk not knowing what will happen next, have open mind and hearts to bigger responsibility that goes along with every "i do's" answered, willing to give up anything that is necessary to keep the marriage work...willing to make sacrifices for one another....willing to make adjustments with each other forever.....jeeze...there's a lot more.   The reason why i always prefer to be married in Church, because i know its one of the biggest step of life  that we will be making and that God's blessings is one of  the most important thing we want to feel from that day onwards. It's a hard work, tough job, very serious commitment to make for two people in love...and having God at the center of both lives (one.. wont work), everything is always possible.

Title: Re: What is Marriage all about???
Post by scottman on Nov 4th, 2004, 10:22am
I think it is about 2 people choosing to share their lives together.  It is a life long commitment of comprimise and it is a lot of work.  The up side; someone to share your goals and dreams, if you are lucky, have children, and, health being on your side, grow old and have grand children.  

Title: Re: What is Marriage all about???
Post by scottman on Nov 4th, 2004, 10:24am

on 10/30/04 at 11:52:21, mylane wrote:
Marriage here in the Philippines is forever while love is not.

Mymy, you state "love is not forever" like it is a fact... I would suggest that is an opinion as I love my wife as much today as I did 6 years ago and I look at my parents who still love each other some 37 years later...

Title: Re: What is Marriage all about???
Post by mylane on Nov 6th, 2004, 9:12pm

on 11/04/04 at 10:24:30, scottman wrote:
Mymy, you state "love is not forever" like it is a fact... I would suggest that is an opinion as I love my wife as much today as I did 6 years ago and I look at my parents who still love each other some 37 years later...


I'm happy to hear that Scott. But I'm mostly talking to the people here in my country especially the celebrities.

I see a lot of failed marriages in here that they are now having a hard time getting it annulled.

But I witnessed some lasting love also like my grandpas and grandmas, aunts and uncles including my parents.


Title: Re: What is Marriage all about???
Post by scottman on Nov 7th, 2004, 2:31pm

on 11/06/04 at 21:12:49, mylane wrote:
I'm happy to hear that Scott. But I'm mostly talking to the people here in my country especially the celebrities.

I see a lot of failed marriages in here that they are now having a hard time getting it annulled.

But I witnessed some lasting love also like my grandpas and grandmas, aunts and uncles including my parents.


well Mymy, i'd put a whole lot more faith in what I witnessed of my grandparents and aunts/uncles then I would celebrities... Although they are front and center in the media, the are the exceptions to the rule and a very small percentage of the population.  I'd also consider *most* of them the worst roll models in the world.  I pray that my kids will never look to celebs as roll models.

Title: Re: What is Marriage all about???
Post by okasantina on Nov 7th, 2004, 6:27pm
In my own opinion..i dont care if celebs dont believe in marriage..thats the part of their world..and its a level of their success. Guys in high profile, powerful positions like celebs, business exec. and politicians often have a sense of superiority and entitlement. And those men and women have achieved a certain status, and bedding several attractive individualsfurther reinforces their mind.  Moreover this men and women are constantly on the road away from their wives and u know their prominence attracts a slew of babes who offer no-strings-attached sex.  They may have a wonderful partner waitin at home, but the situation they are in, coupled with their role of pursuer, makes it that much easier to cheat  :-/....And for me it is important to pay attention to the warning signs, but whether a man or a woman will stray or not boils down to the person's level of honesty within the relationships and  loyalty to u. Cuz there is nothing to worry about in marriage as long as u beliege in ure partner...but then i guess dont try to marry a celbs or a politician or else ull end up to nothing....lol! ;D

Title: Re: What is Marriage all about???
Post by gracia on Nov 12th, 2004, 5:25pm
when i was about to get married, i've heard about break ups, annulment, rocky marriages...but then it's in my thought that i'm not them.  I'm very optimistic to think that we can have a happy marriage if both of us want to be.  And so far, we are doing great, and we're almost on our 7 years.  God willing, hope we'll be together till we grow old, and still open to adjustments, as adjustments takes forever.

So mylene...don't let the news hinders you to move further, u aren't a coward....i challenge ya....hehehe...joking

Title: Re: What is Marriage all about???
Post by beth on Jan 24th, 2005, 10:32pm

on 10/29/04 at 20:46:12, nelson3082000 wrote:
maylane not if ur smart get her onto those contrceptives staright away then u can lick and poke as much as u like


ah yeah bugger :P l know exactly what u had in mind, u hasnt change a bit! hahaha ;D

Title: Re: What is Marriage all about???
Post by beth on Jan 24th, 2005, 10:35pm
marriage is a great committment u take in your life, once ur in it, u "close" ur eyes to other gurl/guy for life.

Title: Re: What is Marriage all about???
Post by thebeast on Jan 24th, 2005, 11:53pm
Marriage is the union between a man and a woman. Its supposed to be forever, for better or worse, in sickness in health, for richer or pooer, till death parts. So from a biblical standpoint if you wanna get out of a marriage u gotta die. Lets move to the present. Life is not what it was 100 or even 1000 years ago. Marriage during the biblical days was pretty much arranged and a man could have as many wives as he wanted. A man would go crazy now days if he had more than one wife. In the days of Abraham, the women were not as independent as they are now. They were not as controlling and did not expect much of a man. As long as the basic needs like food, water, and shelter were provided for everything was fine. A man could be a sheppard and make a good living. Life was simple back then. Life is complicated now. Movie stars cant stay married because they have no life. Nothing is private for them. Life is easy for them also. They make lots of money so they can have whatever they want. So what happens is they get bored with the one night stands and marry someone they think they are truely in love with. Then complications happen. They have gotten so used to an easy lifestyle they choose not to try to work it out. So they divorce. Divorce is not the best thing in the world and its not for everyone. The fact is people do fall out of love. The catholic church is very hardline against divorce. Personally I am not a big fan of the catholic church. The catholic church uses every means to force their beliefs on a person. The catholic church has a long history of defeating nations and forcing thier way of life on the people and countries they defeated, when at the same time took charge of the people and took whatever wealth they had in GOD's name. Thats not freedom. Im a firm believer that religeon and government should be seperate. And if i need help in my marriage the church should be there for me if I choose to use it for help. But dont fill me with guilt and regret if i choose to get divorced. Thats so hypocrytical. What does a catholic priest know about marriage? Has he experienced this with a woman? No he hasnt. All he knows is whats written in a book. A book that was wrote a long long time ago. Thats why before you say the words I do, you need to think about what they really mean. Marriage now days is about making a sacrafice on both sides. Sometimes just loving someone is still not enough. Its very easy to love someone the hard part is living with them and loving them while u are living for the rest of your life.

Title: Re: What is Marriage all about???
Post by norkay on Jan 25th, 2005, 6:12am

on 01/24/05 at 23:53:26, thebeast wrote:
Marriage is the union between a man and a woman. Its supposed to be forever, for better or worse, in sickness in health, for richer or pooer, till death parts. So from a biblical standpoint if you wanna get out of a marriage u gotta die. Lets move to the present. Life is not what it was 100 or even 1000 years ago. Marriage during the biblical days was pretty much arranged and a man could have as many wives as he wanted. A man would go crazy now days if he had more than one wife. In the days of Abraham, the women were not as independent as they are now. They were not as controlling and did not expect much of a man. As long as the basic needs like food, water, and shelter were provided for everything was fine. A man could be a sheppard and make a good living. Life was simple back then. Life is complicated now. Movie stars cant stay married because they have no life. Nothing is private for them. Life is easy for them also. They make lots of money so they can have whatever they want. So what happens is they get bored with the one night stands and marry someone they think they are truely in love with. Then complications happen. They have gotten so used to an easy lifestyle they choose not to try to work it out. So they divorce. Divorce is not the best thing in the world and its not for everyone. The fact is people do fall out of love. The catholic church is very hardline against divorce. Personally I am not a big fan of the catholic church. The catholic church uses every means to force their beliefs on a person. The catholic church has a long history of defeating nations and forcing thier way of life on the people and countries they defeated, when at the same time took charge of the people and took whatever wealth they had in GOD's name. Thats not freedom. Im a firm believer that religeon and government should be seperate. And if i need help in my marriage the church should be there for me if I choose to use it for help. But dont fill me with guilt and regret if i choose to get divorced. Thats so hypocrytical. What does a catholic priest know about marriage? Has he experienced this with a woman? No he hasnt. All he knows is whats written in a book. A book that was wrote a long long time ago. Thats why before you say the words I do, you need to think about what they really mean. Marriage now days is about making a sacrafice on both sides. Sometimes just loving someone is still not enough. Its very easy to love someone the hard part is living with them and loving them while u are living for the rest of your life.


Hi there Joel,
Well, I don't mean to reject your opinions,but it's kinda bothering reading your judgements.I see that as a direct judgement to those people you're refering.

What marriage means can never be changed,no matter how the person takes it.The Catholic church is against divorce but i believe it's not the only that church that against about it.I am ,personally, against divorce.The Catholic can never force one's person in complying the church's belief.It's just that they're the one that are actively campaigning "anti-divorce".I don't think either you're right about your judgement about the reasons why movie stars changing partners.Everyone has his/her personal reason.What upsetting only is how people take marriage now a days-they rush into it and end like ending a game.It seems like it's no longer a sacred thing.

Title: Re: What is Marriage all about???
Post by gracia on Jan 25th, 2005, 11:13am
I think one of the reasons why Catholic Church opposed divorce because of a simple reason that the Church wanted the couple to work it out first before jumping into harsh decisions.  The problem now a days like what joel says...everyone prefers to have an easy life, grab the easiest way out....why not??? i'm bored with my wife or husband...i can find a new one.....the deeper meaning of marriage and commitment that goes with it has been totally neglected.  

But it's a case to case basis too....i can't be a battered wife...if my husband will hit me once...i'll file for annulment right a way......treating me as punching bag is out of line....and that is child abuse lol


Title: Re: What is Marriage all about???
Post by beth on Jan 27th, 2005, 8:58am
well, if we're talking about marriage... its kinda complicated, l wont judge thow joel, l never been married b4 so then l will try to look at dis from others point of view too.

grace were right it's depends on case by case, but just to easily end it and get new guy/gurl is just to shallow, mebbe its the easiest way but then remember about great commitment u took when you say 'l do'.

God created eve from adam's rib, it was meant to be like that from the beginning, but God never force you out of your free will...
so does the church, l am a christian, mebbe lil different from catholic, but then its about the same, the church just trying to make u think and think further to prevent you from divorce. eventho the priest there never married, but they get revelations from God about this? who knows? the importhing is, they dont do bad things, they want a marriage to be happen in general.

l hate divorce myself, everybody want to get marry and live happily ever after, but we live in the world, not in heaven or wonderland.
this is life so well lets do da best of it ;D

Title: Re: What is Marriage all about???
Post by Wicked_Witch on Jul 9th, 2005, 10:02am

on 10/29/04 at 23:05:18, chelle wrote:
i dont got too if i dont want to do i?

depends on situation really:P


I agree, cuz. But I think that largely, marriage is just a form of security. When u want to go legal, u get married. You get the right to use the other person's name. Your kids get the right to be acknowledged in every way by the father. And if he has an affair, and something happens to him, I guess u get the right to all that he's going to leave behind, to all that he has build and worked hard for no matter that you were being bitchy to him when he was still alive ;DI also think that when two people get married, it puts a burden on the relationship. Like its easier for the husband to stop doing the some of the things he used to do before the marriage? Because with marriage comes the responsibilities and it gets bigger everyday  so their time together gets very limited. :-/

Title: Re: What Is Marriage All About???
Post by gracia on Jul 9th, 2005, 6:47pm

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But I think that largely, marriage is just a form of security


i wouldn't have married if i think of that ...."marriage a form of security", because i can't see security by then not even till now.....only we try to do our best.... and we leave it all to God to provide us more than what we deserve.

Title: Re: What Is Marriage All About???
Post by beth on Jul 10th, 2005, 2:40pm
form of security? :o oh my gosh!! if marriage is just as simple as that then l will not want to get marry! lol lol
maybe you will feel more "secure" when you are married but doesn't meant only a form of security.

Marriage... talking about a very great big step in your life, a great commitment, it's a sublime thing that u ever get in your life. well that's what my opinion thow ;D
it's a great co-operation between all ppl in the family itself, hubby and wife and maybe the kids later...
once you say "yes, l do" then u close your eyes to other man/woman ;D once u say it u become "blind" to other man/woman... ;D l meant u will choose the man/woman for ur life then love your choice ;D

Title: PARTNERS AND MARRIAGE...how to choose....
Post by gracia on Jul 12th, 2005, 10:27am
it's worth reading guys...please do take time...

Part I

PARTNERS AND MARRIAGE
   By Eduardo Jose E. Calasanz

   I have never met a man who didn't want to be loved. But I have seldom met a man who didn't fear marriage. Something about the closure seems constricting, not enabling. Marriage seems easier to understand for what it cuts out of our lives than for what it makes possible within our lives.

   When I was younger this fear immobilized me. I did not want to make a mistake. I saw my friends get married for reasons of social acceptability, or sexual fever, or just because they thought it was the logical thing to do. Then I watched, as they and their partners became embittered and petty in their dealings with each other. I looked at older couples and saw, at best, mutual toleration of each other. I imagined a lifetime of loveless nights and bickering and could not imagine subjecting myself or someone else to such a fate.

   And yet, on rare occasions, I would see old couples who somehow seemed to glow in each other's presence. They seemed really in love, not just dependent upon each other and tolerant of each other's foibles. It was an astounding sight, and it seemed impossible. How, I asked myself, can they have survived so many years of sameness, so much irritation at the other's habits? What keeps love alive in them, when most of us seem unable to even stay together, much less love each other? The central secret seems to be in choosing well. There is something to the claim of fundamental compatibility. Good people can create a bad relationship, even though they both dearly want the relationship to succeed. It is important to find someone with whom you can create a good relationship from the outset. Unfortunately, it is hard to see c learly in the early stages.

   Sexual hunger draws you to each other and colors the way you see yourselves together. It blinds you to the thousands of little things by which relationships eventually survive or fail. You need to find a way to see beyond this initial overwhelming sexual fascination. Some people choose to involve themselves sexually and ride out the most heated period of sexual attraction in order to see what is on the other side. This can work, but it can also leave a trail of wounded hearts. Others deny the sexual side altogether in an attempt to get to know each other apart from their sexuality. But they cannot see clearly, because the presence of unfulfilled sexual desire looms so large that it keeps them from having any normal perception of what life would be like together.

Title: Re: What Is Marriage All About???
Post by gracia on Jul 12th, 2005, 10:27am
Part II...

The truly lucky people are the ones who manage to become long-time friends before they realize they are attracted to each other. They get to know each other's laughs, passions, sadness, and fears. They see each other at their worst and at their best. They share time together before they get swept into the entangling intimacy of their sexuality.

   This is the ideal, but not often possible. If you fall under the spell of your sexual attraction immediately, you need to look beyond it for other keys to compatibility. One of these is laughter. Laughter tells you how much you will enjoy each other's company over the long term.

   If your laughter together is good and healthy, and not at the expense of others, then you have a healthy relationship to the world. Laughter is the child of surprise. If you can make each other laugh, you can always surprise each other. And if you can always surprise each other, you can always keep the world around you new. Beware of a relationship in which there is no laughter. Even the most intimate relationships based only on seriousness have a tendency to turn sour. Over time, sharing a common serious viewpoint on the world tends to turn you against those who do not share the same viewpoint, and your relationship can become based on being critical together.

   After laughter, look for a partner who deals with the world in a way you respect. When two people first get together, they tend to see their relationship as existing only in the space between the two of them. They find each other endlessly fascinating, and the overwhelming power of the emotions they are sharing obscures the outside world. As the relationship ages and grows, the outside world becomes important again. If your partner treats people or circumstances in a way you can't accept, you will inevitably come to grief. Look at the way she cares for others and deals with the daily affairs of life. If that makes you love her more, your love will grow. If it does not, be careful. If you do not respect the way you each deal with the world around you, eventually the two of you will not respect each other.

   Look also at how your partner confronts the mysteries of life. We live on the cusp of poetry and practicality, and the real life of the heart resides in the poetic. If one of you is deeply affected by the mystery of the unseen in life and relationships, while the other is drawn only to the literal and the practical, you must take care that the distance doesn't become an unbridgeable gap that leaves you each feeling isolated and misunderstood.

Title: Re: What Is Marriage All About???
Post by gracia on Jul 12th, 2005, 10:28am
Part III.. (last part)

There are many other keys, but you must find them by ourself. We all have unchangeable parts of our hearts that we will not betray and private commitments to a vision of life that we will not deny. If you fall in love with someone who cannot nourish those inviolable parts of you, or if you cannot nourish them in her, you will find yourselves growing further apart until you live in separate worlds where you share the business of life, but never touch each other where the heart lives and dreams. From there it is only a small leap to the cataloging of petty hurts and daily failures that leaves so many couples bitter and unsatisfied with their mates.

   So choose carefully and well. If you do, you will have chosen a partner with whom you can grow, and then the real miracle of marriage can take place in your hearts. I pick my words carefully when I speak of a miracle. But I think it is not too strong a word.

   There is a miracle in marriage. It is called transformation. Transformation is one of the most common events of nature. The seed becomes the flower. The cocoon becomes the butterfly. Winter becomes spring and love becomes a child. We never question these, because we see them around us every day. To us they are not miracles, though if we did not know them they would be impossible to believe.

   Marriage is a transformation we choose to make. Our love is planted like a seed, and in time it begins to flower. We cannot know the flower that will blossom, but we can be sure that a bloom will come.

   If you have chosen carefully and wisely, the bloom will be good. If you have chosen poorly or for the wrong reason, the bloom will be flawed. We are quite willing to accept the reality of negative transformation in a marriage. It was negative transformation that always had me terrified of the bitter marriages that I feared when I was younger. It never occurred to me to question the dark miracle that transformed love into harshness and bitterness. Yet I was unable to accept the possibility that the first heat of love could be transformed into something positive that was actually deeper and more meaningful than the heat of fresh passion. All I could believe in was the power of this passion and the fear that when it cooled I would be left with something lesser and bitter.

   But there is positive transformation as well. Like negative transformation, it results from a slow accretion of little things. But instead of death by a thousand blows, it is growth by a thousand touches of love. Two histories intermingle. Two separate beings, two separate presence, two separate consciousnesses come together and share a view of life that passes before them. They remain separate, but they also become one. There is an expansion of awareness, not a closure and a constriction, as I had once feared. This is not to say that there is not tension and there are not traps. Tension and traps are part of every choice of life, from celibate to monogamous to having multiple lovers. Each choice contains within it the lingering doubt that the road not taken somehow more fruitful and exciting, and each becomes dulle d to the richn ess that it alone contains.

   But only marriage allows life to deepen and expand and be leavened by the knowledge that two have chosen, against all odds, to become one. Those who live together without marriage can know the pleasure of shared company, but there is a specific gravity in the marriage commitment that deepes that experience into something richer and more complex.

   So do not fear marriage, just as you should not rush into it for the wrong reasons. It is an act of faith and it contains within it the power of transformation.

   If you believe in your heart that you have found someone with whom you are able to grow, if you have sufficient faith that you can resist the endless attraction of the road not taken and the partner not chosen, if you have the strength of heart to embrace the cycles and seasons that your love will experience, then you may be ready to seek the miracle that marriage offers. If not, then wait. The easy grace of a marriage well made is worth your patience. When the time comes, a thousand flowers will bloom...endlessly.

Title: Re: What Is Marriage All About???
Post by Wicked_Witch on Jul 14th, 2005, 4:24am
Well Grace and Beth....all im saying is that I have seen relationships that go sour right after they got married. My sister is a good example of that. She was living in with the boyfriend for a couple of years till they decided to get married for the sake of the children. A year after the marriage they went separate ways, the 2 boys going back and forth to both parents. I mean what is really in a marriage? Isnt the relationship between a couple more important? What do u get out of marriage that you cannot get from living together in harmony out of matrimony? Tell me what are the real reasons why people get married? It cant be love alone...if its not then what...respectability? Because it cannot be a guarantee for a long lasting relationship. And in the end it causes a lot of hassles to get out of it. Im not against marriage...I was married once but we did it because we need a valid marriage contract. So my reason is material. Now please give me some other reason why people should get married other than the reasons I gave in my first post? I know im being obstinate but humor me on this one, ladies ;D [smiley=icon_thanks.gif]

Title: Re: What Is Marriage All About???
Post by Forgettable on Jul 15th, 2005, 10:56am
Realistically speaking, although it's very sad to say,there are many times marriage is being used and done for security reasons. These are some major reasons we often see why marriage's sacredness is being lost.Many use it as a way to save their visas in order to be able to work or stay in one country ( no offense meant ), many use it just to keep their rights of their shares from their husband's/wife's properties, and many even do it to gain residency in a certain country.So in some cases,I understand and have to agree with Wicked Witch.

However, marriage should never be done because of these reasons but must be done only by a woman and a man who are in love with each other. Marriage is a very sacred thing,thus, it should be taken sacredly and legally as well and never to be taken for granted or not that you plan marriage in order to be able to do this,have that,gain that , or for the sake of other people like your children, etc. etc.

Personally, I respect the sacredness of marriage. I think of marriage as something that will confine me.I support legal and eternal marriage.However, there are some cases I understand why divorce has to be happened.  

Title: Re: What Is Marriage All About???
Post by kim on Jul 19th, 2005, 11:46am
Marriage is all about sacrifices, compromise, adjustments, commitments all love. I dunno about some ppl but i only plan to get married once. Thats why i'm not yet marrried  :P ;D

Title: Re: What Is Marriage All About???
Post by chelle on Jul 19th, 2005, 6:39pm
marriage is all about  2 people that had decided to become as 1 duhhhhhhhh! lol, but anyways this days mariage is now like a light that you can just turn on and off if you wanted too and a race for something unwinnable at the end no matter how fast you run. It is sad to say that its rare to find something so sacred in this serious matter because its a hell of a job and effort to make marriage work out and make it last long, specially when kids involve but i must say marriage is all about how much effort you willing to give to make it called marriage or a sacred relation into one another as one. the best of the bestest if not the great of the greatest u can possible put on but  as so many people in the wolrd now they wont feel and think it as they will always say that theres plenty fish around [smiley=fish.gif] so insted of getting serious sacred matter they just want to fish around waaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh [smiley=fish.gif] [smiley=bigcry.gif]

Title: Re: What Is Marriage All About???
Post by Wicked_Witch on Jul 20th, 2005, 12:18pm

on 07/19/05 at 11:46:08, kim wrote:
Marriage is all about sacrifices, compromise, adjustments, commitments all love. I dunno about some ppl but i only plan to get married once. Thats why i'm not yet marrried  :P ;D



That kind of marriage is very rare now in this century.  Most of the ideal marriages that we can really call sacred happened between our parents...our grandparents. Time has changed. Most often than not,  a marriage has become a competition if not a challenge between the husband and the wife. It is because we live in hard times now. We have to keep up.  Most of the women these days fall to only two categories,  the vulnerables and the fighters. They are vulnerable in the sense that they easily succumb to temptations. And the fighters are those who will do everything in their power to get what they need to do in order to have a better life. So how can we expect a marriage to last  forever?  Marriage is usually good in the beginning. When the kids starts coming we change our priorities. Would the husband just sit back and watch? Of course not! Marriage will only be successful for people who have simple dreams and want a simple life. But dont we all secretely wish we have more? Getting married is easy..its what happens while u stay married is the problem.

Title: Re: What Is Marriage All About???
Post by Justine on Jul 27th, 2005, 9:40am
Marriage comes to our minds when we feel we found the right ONE to spend the rest of our life with....and yes, ONE-time marriage.  But no matter how beautiful our dreams of marriage are, things can always get in the way.  I agree sistah, getting married is indeed an easy thing to do but staying married takes a lot far more than love. Marriage isn't all about love and should not be based on love because feelings vary.  We may love a person today and hate him tomorrow.  It should be based on the commitment that you made so I'd say yes, it's a sacrifice.  Wanna get married?

Title: Re: What Is Marriage All About???
Post by gracia on Jul 27th, 2005, 5:30pm
generally...the soon to be couple were so busy preparing the wedding, but failed to ready themselves for the marriage itself.

Title: Re: What Is Marriage All About???
Post by Justine on Jul 28th, 2005, 3:52pm
mismo, Gracia, Amen to that

Title: Re: What Is Marriage All About???
Post by wicked1 on Aug 10th, 2005, 2:49am
Marriage is about having that significant other to be there for you in  happiness, sadness , good times , and bad ones , basically  when you need them , as you need them...Such marriages are  a rare find in todays world , people are too quick to say (i do) , before even thinking of the consequences of whats going to follow ..My marriage was  based on those thoughts , i intending to marry for life , but unfortunately after 5 yrs , my now ex wife , didnt think that way ..Such as life .. I envy all those still married ..God Bless you all..

Title: Re: What Is Marriage All About???
Post by Wicked_Witch on Aug 24th, 2005, 1:29am
Marriage is for when you're ready to commit yourself and start a family. People should not marry just for "love" alone because with marriage comes bigger responsibilities. Couples should ask themselves first if they are ready to face this new aspects in their lives. They should think ahead, too. Not just the happiness of finally "roping" the one they cared so much about. ;D It should be a lifetime commitment.

Title: Re: What Is Marriage All About???
Post by Wicked_Witch on Oct 29th, 2005, 6:24am
Marriage should be a GIVE and TAKE. The husband gives and the wife takes.. [smiley=roll.gif] [smiley=roll.gif] [smiley=roll.gif]

Title: Re: What Is Marriage All About???
Post by dOnUtz 9urL on Oct 29th, 2005, 2:58pm
reading this threads so ahhhhh... marriage is a great step in your life ;D in our dream we dream for a happily marriage that we can grow old together, its a once in a life time. that's why l'll look for a simple guy with simple way of thinking ;D any volunteers? :P lol lol

Title: Re: What Is Marriage All About???
Post by Wicked_Witch on Nov 7th, 2005, 1:16am
Here are some thoughts about marriage:       Marriage is a relationship where the other one is always right.....the other one is a HUSBAND.
Don't marry the person you want to live with...marry the person you can't live without. But whatever you do, you will still regret it later..!!
Marriage should be a compromise....the husband should always admit he's wrong and the wife will always agree.
It doesn't matter how many times the husband changes his job...he still ends up with  the same boss.
They call their language the mother tongue coz the father seldom get's to speak.

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