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(Message started by: astrobloke on Jan 14^th, 2006, 2:58am)

Title: Nice guy or bad boy ?
Post by astrobloke on Jan 14^th, 2006, 2:58am

Time for some controversy and a challenge to the ladies to be frank and not speak from political correctness ;D

Is it true that the nice guy always misses out ?

Why do so many women complain that men are all a__holes and still they overlook the nice guy who would treat them well and appreciate them ?

Maybe some women unconsciously choose a man who will treat them how they feel they deserve to be treated (and then cry on the shoulder of their nice-guy friend about how their bf mistreats them ::) ).

Guys who have been there will know the score. If the girls mother likes you, you're doomed [smiley=roll.gif]

Title: Re: Nice guy or bad boy ?
Post by Wicked_Witch on Jan 16^th, 2006, 10:23am

All I can say, astro is that all the nice guys seems to be taken or not looking at all. [smiley=roll.gif] [smiley=roll.gif] [smiley=roll.gif]. Take note of this, too. Nice guys always stay in the background ready to catch the girl should she fall. That's why the a__holes get there first, ok?

Title: Re: Nice guy or bad boy ?
Post by thebeast on Jan 24^th, 2006, 7:12pm

Well I think a guy can be both. But I admit I dont like to be called a nice guy. Guys who are nice for the most part , its more difficult for them to get things accomplished, and more importantly, its more difficult for them to get what they really want. What does a nice guy get? Well the only thing he really gets is the "Gee you are a nice guy" compliment and thats pretty much it. Maybe a kiss on the cheek or a hug or a pat on the back. I bet if you take all the successful males in the world and ask how they got to where they are at today...I am willing to bet the way they got there was not by being nice. Its very competitive in my society and being nice just doesnt cut it . Now pretending to be nice does get things done. In college to get in a program like medicine or law or anything else that requires futher education than just a bachelors degree...the true nice people dont get selected as much as the a holes. Why? Because nice people tend to give up. Nice guys are more like a follower than a leader. They dont finish things. The people on the boards that do the interviews can spot this a mile away. Nice guys cant beat or adjust to the system so they usually quit due to some ethical concerns they have or they are just to nice. Students are very competive for this positions and they will do just about anything to get them. Including stab you in the back. Its a gray area because if u really think about it you cant be nice and get what you truely want. You can be honest and not be perceived as nice which is the road I choose to follow. I have had some success with that approach. But that dont always work either. And I know for a fact that most woman really dont want a nice guy. I saw Jenifer Lopez last night on Jay Leno and she said quote "women prefer bad guys"and pretty much every woman in the audience clapped thier hands in agreement. J Lo a woman who could have any man she wanted and she prefers a bad guy. So you women who say all the nice guys are taken are really just lying to yourselves because all the nice guys are more than available. Or you say all the good guys are taken...but what you really mean is all the good guys who you perceive as being good are taken but the fact of the matter is that these guys arent necessarily good or nice. The fact of the matter is a woman wants a man who is not a wimp and who gets things done and who gives her what she needs. She may think she wants a nice guy but I dont think she really does. She says she wants a nice guy and then maybe she gets one then she is not happy. Why? Well because nice guys wont argue with them most of the time. Even when a nice guy is right he gives in. Soon the woman will be bored of this and then what? Well she wants another nice guy but maybe one who is not as nice as the one she is with now. Women usually have no idea what they want as far as men goes. They want a fairy tale. Then when they get this fairy tale that they think they got they become bored.

Title: Re: Nice guy or bad boy ?
Post by Wicked_Witch on Jan 25^th, 2006, 6:15am

I beg to differ, Joel. First of, JLO is a celebrity. They do and say everything to entertain their audience. How can you be so sure he really wants a bad guy? And in every competitions...its always coz the bad guys always fights dirty while the nice guy do things by the book, or by the rules. And please..there is a big difference between a nice guy and a boring guy. :P And because they are women, they do not have much inclinations to make the choice. If they become too aggressive, they will be termed as easy-to-get. And men usually just play with them. If they wait in the background, the guy will be taken by another right under her nose. :P And too...the "simpler" women much prefer to wait to get noticed first than to "attack", meaning to go after the guy of their choice.

Title: Re: Nice guy or bad boy ?
Post by astrobloke on Jan 25^th, 2006, 7:22am

on 01/24/06 at 19:12:20, thebeast wrote:

Women usually have no idea what they want as far as men goes. They want a fairy tale. Then when they get this fairy tale that they think they got they become bored.

I absolutely agree with this statement. Just look at the romance novel stereotype of the man who relentlessly persues the woman until she becomes overwhelmed by his romantic gestures and falls in love with him. Bah! what a crock!
Such behaviour in reality is likely to get a man branded as a stalker (unless its the man she already decided she really wanted in the first place).

Title: Re: Nice guy or bad boy ?
Post by astrobloke on Jan 25^th, 2006, 7:30am

From my observations of women who complain that "all men are a__holes" , such women choose the same type of man time and time again, and then have the audacity to put down an entire gender ::)

When I have seen such comments my response is normally something like "there is only one element constant in all of your relationships, and thats you."

Yep its blunt and the truth can hurt, but nothing will ever change for these people until they accept responsibility for their own choices in partners.

Title: Re: Nice guy or bad boy ?
Post by thebeast on Jan 25^th, 2006, 6:59pm

on 01/25/06 at 06:15:06, Wicked_Witch wrote:

[color=red][b]I beg to differ, Joel. First of, JLO is a celebrity. They do and say everything to entertain their audience. How can you be so sure he really wants a bad guy

J Lo is a woman and she is married to a bad guy and the only relevant fact due to her being an entertainer is she can have any guy she wants and she chooses a who she considers not to be nice.

on 01/25/06 at 06:15:06, Wicked_Witch wrote:

[color=red]And in every competitions...its always coz the bad guys always fights dirty while the nice guy do things by the book, or by the rules.

Well it may be dirty but its usually within the rules and the only important thing is winning and nice guys hardly ever win

on 01/25/06 at 06:15:06, Wicked_Witch wrote:

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And please..there is a big difference between a nice guy and a boring guy. :P

I never said nice guys were boring...I said women will soon become bored with nice guys.

on 01/25/06 at 06:15:06, Wicked_Witch wrote:

[color=red]And because they are women, they do not have much inclinations to make the choice. If they become too aggressive, they will be termed as easy-to-get. And men usually just play with them. If they wait in the background, the guy will be taken by another right under her nose. :P

Thats exactly why women should be more agressive. I know what you are saying but have you ever heard the early bird gets the worm?

on 01/25/06 at 06:15:06, Wicked_Witch wrote:

[color=redAnd too...the "simpler" women much prefer to wait to get noticed first than to "attack", meaning to go after the guy of their choice.

Well if she really wants something she should go for it in my opinion. Its a fact that there are more females than males on the earth. If she waits around to long she gonna never get what she wants.

Title: Re: Nice guy or bad boy ?
Post by Wicked_Witch on Jan 27^th, 2006, 3:40am

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Well if she really wants something she should go for it in my opinion. Its a fact that there are more females than males on the earth. If she waits around to long she gonna never get what she wants

And risks being branded as cheap or easy and give the person an edge so he can play around with you? No way! I think I'll wait to get noticed. If he doesn't..its his loss :P

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I never said nice guys were boring...I said women will soon become bored with nice guys

I think this is a case to case basis. If the woman is looking for a long lasting relationship, I am sure she will not get bored with a nice guy. But if the woman is only playing around and is just out to prove something, I am sure also that when the excitement wore itself out, she will easily discard the man for the next nice guy.

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Well it may be dirty but its usually within the rules

When someone plays "dirty" it always follows that he disregarded rules, that's why it is called "dirty".

Title: Re: Nice guy or bad boy ?
Post by Gracia on Jan 27^th, 2006, 5:09am

I think it all depends on how a woman defines "nice guy". Women have different views about nice guy. Some women says their men is nice but others would say...what's nice in him? he's a complete blah blah blah etc etc. Woman has to find her match, she may find it nice but to others he might not. But who cares, as long as it passes her judgement and she can live with it.

By the way, I think I married a nice guy. For almost 8 years of being married now, I would say we've experienced quite a lot of situations already that would test our union. But not boredom yet. But i think boredom comes in when both of you failed to be creative,(opps don't be kinky there...being creative covers a lot) failed to appreciate what one has to offer, lack of cooperation and communication. Any relationship requires help in both parties and definitely not a sole job. He's not perfect but he's nice. He fits my definitin of being Mr. Nice Guy ;D...

Title: Re: Nice guy or bad boy ?
Post by Aftr_it on Jan 27^th, 2006, 2:14pm

:( well Im still comming last

Title: Re: Nice guy or bad boy ?
Post by nOrKAy on Jul 28^th, 2006, 8:04am

I would say, those who are clean don't want to be put in the mud. So, why choose the "dirty" one? Well, except if these choices have a twist, then that's another thing to learn about.

Title: Re: Nice guy or bad boy ?
Post by CooCHie on Jul 30^th, 2006, 3:17am

on 01/27/06 at 05:09:58, Gracia wrote:

I agree with regards to someone's definition of a nice guy. Your definition might differs from the rest of us.
SO Astro just wait till someone tells you are being nice ::) ::)your time will come.
And another thing some people choose to go their way to pick who they wanted to marry. For them its a choice that they think he or she is the right one. Some might forsee your being arrogant as nice, some might not. We are all different when it comes to choices and the way we think!!!

Title: Re: Nice guy or bad boy ?
Post by Wicked_Witch on Jul 30^th, 2006, 8:37pm

Nice guys are boring. Badboys are a challenge :-*

Title: Re: Nice guy or bad boy ?
Post by bad_day_me on Dec 1^st, 2006, 2:43pm

i prepare to choose bad boy image and got a nice points of views inside.....rather than a nice guy who had an empty mind..

Title: Re: Nice guy or bad boy ?
Post by ClumsilyIdiotic on Dec 1^st, 2006, 4:12pm

on 07/30/06 at 20:37:13, Wicked_Witch wrote:

Nice guys are boring. Badboys are a challenge :-*

Here here ;) But then again, nice is subjective. I'd chose a guy who has sowed his wild oats, who has been through hell and back, so to speak. Imagine how rich (in experiences) and spirited they are. They add spark, not necessarily in a romantic sense to an otherwise dull and predictable relationship with 'nice' men.

Title: Re: Nice guy or bad boy ?
Post by Wicked_Witch on Dec 5^th, 2006, 5:26am

I'm confused here though, are we talking about nice and bad guy in bed or in a relationship? If it's in a relationship, who would want a bad boy? They are trouble with a capital T! ;D

Title: Re: Nice guy or bad boy ?
Post by okasantina on Dec 19^th, 2006, 2:42am

I think bad boy would be nice cuz ill be proud of myself if i made a bad guy into a nice boy right? ;)

Title: Re: Nice guy or bad boy ?
Post by bad_day_me on Dec 21^st, 2006, 5:04am

;D ;D ;D

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