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(Message started by: mylane on Jan 4th, 2004, 1:28am)

Title: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by mylane on Jan 4th, 2004, 1:28am
hey guys in PI...

come one and lets all discuss it in here....

this election really bothers me big time...

i wanna hear ur opinion and different emotions about this... ;D

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by coochie_baby03 on Jan 4th, 2004, 9:37pm
Sorry mymy, i dont live there however, if I have to vote for new president... you got my vote ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by mylane on Jan 6th, 2004, 4:08am
hahaha coochie...

this comming election in PI is in a big mess with all those politicians  that file their candidacy and all their s-hit....

i still dont know who to vote actually ???

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by gracia on Jan 11th, 2004, 6:32am
mylene...definitely i dont vote FPJ or other actors or actresses for that matter!  They're abusing their popularity.  Take for example sotto...goodness i voted that guy...but not worth it..so i guess i'll give a chance to non actors or actresses...i hope i can be more wise in voting this May and i pray the others will do the same thing...be wise!

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by mylane on Jan 11th, 2004, 8:03pm
it was really depressing actually....especially  the news about the nuisance candidates...

and theres no way im going to vote for FPJ....im not gonna vote for arroyo either, actually i dunno who to vote darn ;D

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by cebuanalyn on Jan 12th, 2004, 6:25pm
hey gracia, i'm planning to run for mayorship next next next year... for three years starting tomorrow i will be auditioning to be an acress so i will be sure that i will win ..he he.. seriously, Filipinos and Filipinas, please vote wisely... accept the money, but write in the ballot the candidates whom you think deserve your vote... our government is not a theater nor a stageplay...  :'( VOTE a GOD-FEARING Candidate...so, vote for me..hehe..


Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by mylane on Jan 12th, 2004, 10:49pm
try to think about this:

noli de castro is running as VP.., if he wins...meaning poor us and lucky MERALCO....well he has to pay for the LOPEZ support....since lopez clan own the MERALCO....say it again yeah poor filipinos...

the only reason that can make me vote for arroyo is when she kill ramos....well accept it she is just the dummy of ramos...

roco? well i dunno...he cant even manage a small agency like the department of education so how can he be a president?

think about it....

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by mylane on Jan 12th, 2004, 11:08pm
What rumor is this, they say that if FPJ will be disqualified, Susan will take over? What do you think on this matter?

yay!!! ::)

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by cebuanalyn on Jan 13th, 2004, 6:16pm
don't matter at all mymy... whether it's fpj or susan... unless it's me  ;D but seriously, I'm lost of who to vote this may... i will be sick on this day then, so i have an excuse not to vote... i think i go for Mirriam...  ??? whoever..........

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by mylane on Jan 13th, 2004, 7:29pm
is miriam defensor running? ummm...i dont think so....its not in the news  i guess or im not updated...

well i will not go for mirian either she is such a freak to the point her son killed himself cause of too much pressure and failed the exam at UP or watever exam....

wat do u guys think about Lacson? well like they say choose the lesser evil...lol....

yeah i agree analyn its kinda hard to choose who to vote....

okey heres the dillemma that i was thinking yesterday....if susan roces will run...maybe be amalia fuentes will run too....lol kidding aside.... ;D


Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by shastamcnasty on Jan 17th, 2004, 3:46pm
I didn't even know that PI had any form of organized Government? Hey lets just make sure prostitution is legal!!!

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by mylane on Jan 17th, 2004, 8:47pm
huh quak?

prostitution is not legal and PI and will neva be legal...the topic here is Phil. Election...

we are democratic country same us US of A...sovereignty resides in the ppl and all government authorities emanates from them (us ppl)

and same as US of A government...lots of issues and bulls-hit too

political revolution is infinite

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by shastamcnasty on Jan 17th, 2004, 10:29pm
If Prostitution is not legal, than i don't wanna visit.......Costa Rica is closer and has a lot of Prostitutes.....They have a great government ;D

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by mylane on Jan 18th, 2004, 11:31am
why go to other country, just stay in US and go to BUNNY RANCH IN NEVADA...i think prostitution is legal there. ;)

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by okasantina on Jan 22nd, 2004, 9:57am
What i really dont like is the Supreme Court denied the petition about that Electronic Voting System!! Isnt it about time for us to move on?? I dont know what the Govt. really wants!!?? Its all pure politics and becoming selfish w their own intentions!! Imagine its 10 years gap that the Phils have this kind of voting system compared to any other 3rd world countries!! sucks!!!

How can we go forward?? if those minds from the government were stayin still! standing still on what he is doin?!! :-/ >:(

There is always reason for everything to make a change right?? So why not do it now??

okkkkkkkkkk vote for me for me this coming elections!!! ;D ;D ;D ngekkkk!!! ::) :o ;D

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by bige on Jan 22nd, 2004, 10:11am
All I can say the phils isn't as far behind as some third world countries at least that I am aware of.   just have to stop dictatorship thats all.   The only way to do that is vote for who you feels best.   ;)

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by mylane on Jan 22nd, 2004, 7:30pm
about the computerized election....u got ur point there cuz tina  but havent u heard the issue that before and during the registration or validation some computers crashed....i dunno why they need to cancelled that computerized election ...well if thats the case if their not gonna pursue that computerized election....its a total waste of money.....

regarding FPJ candidancy....well all the bulls-hit is happening now...seeing a picture of mike arroyo with the attorney (fornier)  that pursuing FPJ disqualification...tsk tsk...

PRESIDENT Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo fired National Archives Director Ricardo Manapat on Thursday, immediately distancing herself from the man at the center of a disqualification controversy involving opposition presidential candidate Fernando Poe Jr.


that news really made me decide not to vote for gloria....well she always do that...( she is the female version of poncio pilato) this is not the first time she done this kind of stuff...during ERAP issue about jueteng she turned her back to the president...during the case of PIDAL...she done it too...that only proves she is always guilty....hahhaha....makes me laugh big time on all her action....she always want to clean herself in all the issue...right before it started....

my suggestion is for her to kill Fidel Ramos...lol ;D

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by mylane on Jan 22nd, 2004, 7:38pm

on 01/22/04 at 10:11:54, bige wrote:
All I can say the phils isn't as far behind as some third world countries at least that I am aware of.   just have to stop dictatorship thats all.   The only way to do that is vote for who you feels best.   ;)



best? theres is no best....all we have to do is choose whos the lesser EVIL ;D


Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by madd on Jan 22nd, 2004, 7:39pm
All I can say is do not, I repeat do not vote for Mylene.

;D ;D

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by ReeBop on Jan 22nd, 2004, 8:02pm
I'll vote for the Sex Bomb Girls.... :P

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by madd on Jan 22nd, 2004, 8:07pm
Ok I gotta ask, what are the sex bomb girls?

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by ReeBop on Jan 22nd, 2004, 8:46pm
Mymy can fill you in on them.... ;)

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by mylane on Jan 23rd, 2004, 10:05pm
okie sex bomb gurls is a way out of topic...lol...but for matthew's enlightenment...lol i can give exception...lol ;D

sex bomb gurl is a popular dancer in PI. thats all ;D


BACK TO TOPIC:

Comelec panel dismisses Poe disqualification case

THE FIRST DIVISION of the Commission on Elections (Comelec) dismissed Friday a disqualification case against presidential candidate Fernando Poe Jr. for "lack of merit."

The First Division said the "petition and the evidence failed to show strongly and convincingly that the declaration in the Certificate of Candidacy as to the citizenship of respondent was a falsehood."


all i can say is wake up and smell the coffee Philippines ;D


Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by cebuanalyn on Jan 25th, 2004, 11:46pm
I don't care if FPJ will be disqualified or not... i won't vote for him though. I'm in no mood for voting showbiz people for government position. NONO NO, why can't PI have a good candidates? Ohh, I think i'm gonna vote Eddie V. for president  ;) only if i was on showbiz before I could have run for government position today  ;D

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by gracia on Jan 26th, 2004, 7:09pm
ree...if u've seen viva hot babes...guess u'll cancell ur sex bomb vote...

that electronic machines mylene cost billions but then the people on the comelec did not check on the reliability of it during their purchased...perhaps the commission is more impt than the reliability of the machine ...so now they're trying to check if the machine works and found out its not reliable so they cancelled using it...that can still be fix for sure but rans out of time so better cancel using it...its easier to cheat on manual counting anyway!

i never had the chance to sell my vote...i hope poe or ping  buy my vote and i will write mylene's name for president on the ballot...and analyn for mayor of cebu...yippeeeee

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by gracia on Jan 26th, 2004, 7:22pm
prostitution is not legal here in philippines but who cares if its legal or not....the government tolerated it!!!  some higher government officials do business like that...seems the money is flooding in that kind of business :(..anyone who'll venture ???

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by mylane on Jan 27th, 2004, 10:10pm
lol gracia ;D

cebu got a new mayor rite? the former mayor was replaced by whom anyway?

the matter of  computerized election should been discussed  before they started and approved  the bidding. Like i said its a total waste of money and effort. The validation and new registration took me how many weeks before i got validated.

Regarding prostitution...prostitution is everywhere...yeah high officials are sometimes BEHIND that kind of business.

big money? yes very big money come to think of it...now im planning to start and build my own victoria's court or sogo motel...lol ;D

anyway latest news:

Former vice president Laurel dies at 75 due to lymphoma .He was the VP of Corazon Aquino.




Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by gracia on Feb 4th, 2004, 8:29pm
mylene  in fairness for susan..she got better brains than FPJ and she speaks better english than FPJ, but that doesnt mean i vote any of them.

Miriam is running for senator mylene!  tomas osmena is the present mayor in cebu...alvin garcia is running this year as mayor so the fight started already between parties.....isnt that nice...everyone is fighting! ::)

too much money in the government worth fighting for....


Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by cebuanalyn on Feb 5th, 2004, 5:45pm
how about this?

FPJ had a brain scan year ago: only two things were found:


1) on the left side of his brain... nothing is RIGHT

2) on the right side of his brain... nothing is LEFT;
    which means EMPTY :-X  8) what can a president with an empty brain do to our country?  :'(  :-/

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by mylane on Feb 5th, 2004, 7:06pm
oh well....cant think of any scenario about fpj running or even winning....

well i think the real concern of the foreign investors is the possibility of FPJ being elected as PRES and ofcourse due to his lack of qualification and also sensible platform. This will create a cloud uncertainty to the future of our economy.  

if ever FPJ win. do u think there will be an EDSA 4?


Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by cebuanalyn on Feb 6th, 2004, 2:00am
EDSA 4 is very possible... let's just hope and pray that not as bad as the past EDSA's... but we can still do something...VOTE WISELY!!!!

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by mylane on Feb 7th, 2004, 7:31pm
victor corpuz called loren legarda as political prostitute. He said Legarda will do anythin just for her to win.

Gen. Corpus called Sen. Legarda a political prostitute,  really does sound bad after all, enough to hurt even the good senator, who as a former broadcast journalist was supposed to be used to attacks.

But I believe what Gen. Corpus means truly does apply to Sen. Legarda. ;D

Switching to the FPJ camp, she showed that she deserves being called one.

She cannot possibly deny the fact that she switched to the camp of the opposition.

She has the right to change her mind of course, and that includes switching her allegiance to another political faction. But she should bear in mind the possible consequences of her actions like being called a political prostitute.


i remembered her crying during the impeachment case when they didn't allowed to open the envelop....lol ;D


Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by cebuanalyn on Feb 9th, 2004, 2:41am
I salute Sen. Legarda and even voted her last election... Only if she didn't run under FPJ i will vote for her again... but too bad ...for her being FPJ's vice president made me think less of her now... how could she,  whom i think is intelligent enough and qualified enough to run for president make herself being used by the one who doens't have any background/experience about politics?

I do agree that she's doing it just for the sake of winning... but I hope that she won't  :-X

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by mylane on Feb 9th, 2004, 2:58am
yup...she will do anything just for her to win....see how politic works...

well the camp of legarda said the corpuz is the military call boy....hahahah see how they acting....acting like kids....

if legarda is the political prositute the whos the political pimp?

the pidal brothers?

ahahahhaha ;D

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by gracia on Feb 12th, 2004, 11:56pm
on my point of view...legarda run under fpj coz lots of actresses and actors supported him and that the masses are with fpj too and if and when fpj failed to play his role..NGO's will start the rallies and probably another edsa will happen and that will make her an instant president in no time.

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by mylane on Feb 16th, 2004, 11:29pm
u got a point there gracia....

im just thinkin if ppl will gonna buy it or wat.... ???

u got me thinking though...hmmmmm :-/

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by kimmy_baby01 on Feb 17th, 2004, 12:46am
the reasom why the mass ppl love FPJ its coz they think that he is the next ERAP.... and the reason why ppl loved erap it because he gives away money like its just candy... support his rally n he'll feed you.. Shout out his name in the elections n he'll feed you... Ppl dont care bout dollar exchange rates or if the countries economic stability is in danger... all they care about is that someone will give them money to buy food... Because they dont understand politics... I am not saying that in a bad way.. its just that they dont see the big picture... and who could blame them? they never went to school and they are dying of hunger... So why would they care about other ppl??? as long as you give them food they will vote for you.... Its sad to say that majority of us filipinos think this way.... we often fail to see the bigger picture....

I will vote for GMA not because she is all good n all knowing n everything. I will vote for her coz of all the candidates she is the least evil  ;D .... it all boils down to chose b/w lesser evil... And this election will be all about GMA n FPj.... All of the other candidates dont have any chance of winning.... Roco??? what has he done to prove himself... as you said mymy he cant even handle a small group of ppl... Lacson?? He is only running coz he has no where else to go. He has to win or else all of his emenies will kill him  ;D Vilarde??? if he wins does that mean born again ppl will get special attention n other religions will be second class citizens??? What ever happened to separation of church and state???and how about that other eddie whatchamawho? shit he claims he can pay off all our debts  :D when he cant even pay for his hotel bills  ;D is this guy for real? maybe he is richer than bill gates  ;D

as a closing statement.. i'll leave ya guys something to think about... i already know who to vote for president... but have you already thought about who to vote for senetors??? ALL of the senetors who are in position now NEVER did anything during their term... All they did was investigate in so many damn things...Congress made tons of laws n bill but they all got stuck in the senate... SO think about it, who should be the one to change the senate???

Title: wow kimmy is here....yehey!!!
Post by mylane on Feb 17th, 2004, 2:23am
I don't understand how someone who didn't even finish High School can run for president position.

I'm sure that a lot of Filipinos think that FPJ is a good man but that doesn't make him a good candidate.

Didn't we have this same situation with Erap?

Noticed!!! How many Filipino celebrities are turning into politicians nowadays. They're using their popularity to win the votes of the people EVENTHOUGH they don't have formal knowledge and experience in politics.

we better blame the COMELEC about this....i mean how did they rate candidates....whats the qualifications? hmmm....

Gloria Arroyo? Will you choose a  president surrounded with alligators, crocodiles, vultures and snakes that limits/deteriorates her capability to do good for our country?

About the senators....i still dunno who's running....as for de castro? i dont remember any task or bills that he accomplished? if theres any? and now he got lots of guts to run as VP....shame on him!!!




Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by cebuanalyn on Feb 17th, 2004, 7:05pm
3 months to go and candidates are so busy campaigning now... let's hope and pray that they won't think of winning only, but also think of what they will do to the country if they win.

jokes to ponder:

FPJ (For Pareng Joseph)  = for president  ;D

who to vote?

GMA, na puro salita?
FPJ, na walang salita?
Lacson, na patay ka pag nagsasalita?
Villanueva, na puro himala pag nagsasalita?

hmmm..

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by kimmy_baby01 on Feb 17th, 2004, 10:13pm
kim first time you comment on somethinh other than sex n you blew it up  ;D its Villanueva not Vilarde :))...... atleast i correct my own mistakes  :D ;D

i want to think that our country still has hopes and instead of fighting why not help each other to make this country better? i hate every presidential candidate but i will support whom ever wins.

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by mylane on Feb 18th, 2004, 9:12am
nice analyn ;D

kimmy, same here....All of us are hoping for the best of our motherland...just like u watever s-h-i-t happen here in PI...i will rather stay here ;D

but guys....wats ur opinion about  Presidential Candidates Televised Debates? What do you think?

Would you want to see presidential candidates televised laying out their platforms, debated, and grilled?

Would this sway voters into making a more sensible choice for their future leader after seeing them in their most candid appearance?

Who do you think would come out as top dog? Why? hmmm...

i think it never happen before rite? correct me  if im wrong....


Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by gracia on Mar 3rd, 2004, 7:14pm
oh how i love to see debate mylene but then whoever has best performance doesnt mean he/she's best. Though it will help us voters to see a little of themselves.  I challenged FPJ to join the debate, i'll give him free dinner 5 sticks of chicken heads for free ;D

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by cebuanalyn on Mar 4th, 2004, 12:28am
i still don't know if i will vote this coming election..i might just be wasting my time and money..for i have to go to the province just for it..then only to suffer again.. well, i still have 2 months to choose who's who though  ;D

and i may watch the said debate..who knows, it might change my opinion :D

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by gracia on Mar 5th, 2004, 12:50am
ana...u should have transfered to save ur time.  anyway,  with the power of cheating...if u dont vote personally..others will vote for you ghostly. so no worry u did vote still. isn't that nice ;D

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by mylane on Mar 9th, 2004, 2:25am

on 03/04/04 at 00:28:10, cebuanalyn wrote:
i still don't know if i will vote this coming election..i might just be wasting my time and money..for i have to go to the province just for it..then only to suffer again.. well, i still have 2 months to choose who's who though  ;D

and i may watch the said debate..who knows, it might change my opinion :D


i don't think it is a wise decision if we are not goin to vote like gracia said  other will vote for us in case we're absent in this coming election.

A public debate will be good. Discuss the issues and let the people decide what is good and bad.

But it doesn't  necessarily mean that if u win in a debate then you will be good and righteous president.

In the way Roco challenging FPJ, it seems to me that he thinks if he wins in that debate then he will be the right one for the presidency position.


But you know guys most of the time  Filipino Debate style is equal to  character assasination. Thats why it always lead to a big fight.....hahahha....

Now i can imagine Roco and FPJ with FPJ famous punch....hahahaha

anyway, Gloria accepted Roco's invites.

Let see if this televised debate will materialized.

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by gracia on Mar 9th, 2004, 8:13pm
Roco is hoping FPJ will join the debate mylene coz he knows he'll win against FPJ.  At least that will boast his beaten ego if he wont win on the Presidential race.  There's something he can be proud of when its time to make his gracious exit.

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by mylane on Mar 9th, 2004, 8:16pm
ofcourse thats for sure that Roco will win over FPJ.

But sorry for Roco's fan but i find him so immature. That is not the act of a mature person. Would it be good to the Phillipines to have an immature president like him? He is so PIKON.

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by cebuanalyn on Mar 30th, 2004, 6:29pm
One month and 11 days to go, but I still don't know who will i vote for president.. i may end up writing my name instead   :'( will somebody help  me decide?

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by mylane on Mar 30th, 2004, 11:34pm
analyn, told u to check the link that i posted in the Presidentiable Poll that you created....it will help u to decide who to vote. ;D

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by cebuanalyn on Apr 6th, 2004, 6:43am

on 03/30/04 at 23:34:49, mylane wrote:
analyn, told u to check the link that i posted in the Presidentiable Poll that you created....it will help u to decide who to vote. ;D



i did mymy, but still i don't believe them  :-X but those with no answers were not even being considered... hmm.. so i'm down to two now... hmm... don't they ever disappoint me, so i won't waste my vote by leaving a blank >:(

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by gracia on Apr 11th, 2004, 8:27pm
just vote for GMA ann........at least we know how philippines will be run in the coming years.......dont waste ur vote to roco or ping or fpj...gma and fpj are close fights...so vote for gma...gma is better than fpj...actions is not only what we need here...we both need words and actions.

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by cebuanalyn on Apr 11th, 2004, 11:34pm
Gracia, she's one of the two..and the first on my list  :-X don't tell them that...for i still have 26 more days to go to change my mind  ;D

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by mylane on Apr 14th, 2004, 9:56am
ok....wat's with Raul Roco? another drama? to get the filipino sympathy? hmmmm...lotta humor going around about him leaving and going to US for medication....


hmmmm...wat do u think guys?

another humor...i heard regarding Legarda's is that she is running with FPJ because she is the mistress of Angara? and She and her hubby was already separated? hmmmmm.....

whoever wins between arroyo and lacson.....just not villanueva or fpj....

God Bless PI ;D

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by thebeast on May 9th, 2004, 2:28am
I watched HBO boxing tonight and got a look at the current philappine president. She is cute. The boxer who fought was Manny Pacqiao. He is philappino boxer and supports her. Any way the match was a draw. Manny came out and knocked Juan Marquez down 3 times in the 1st round, but Marquez came back to tie the match. Pacqiao is a good fighter, but Marquez is the better boxer. Anyway I wonder if the president of pi still wants his support. Gonna be a rematch and i dont think Pacqiao is gonna win.

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by okasantina on May 10th, 2004, 8:28pm
Yesterday was the Presidential election...and know what? i juzt pulled myzelf goin there to vote! why? cuz i really dont know who to vote eh :-/ It seems that everytime i vote ...theres nothing happen...no change.  Still the voting process sucks!  Some of their namez were lozt and they have to find it ....some dead already voted! :o the dead are alive again during election! ....some have double names.....some have no namez on the list.... I hate thoze stuff!!! When will this end??? Voting ends at 3 pm...and i went there at `2:45 pm....im so lazy to go and to vote!  But what can i do?? my dad already called me 4 timez and my mom bugz me alwayz to go out and vote! :-/  My dad voted for Arroyo...my mom voted for FPJ the actor :-/ :-/ :-/....My dad told me to vote for  Arroyo to continue her projects... my mom told me to vote for FPJ so that the country will be changed!   ??? ::) ??? CONf**kED!  but then on...i went to the decision to go and vote for my Dadz bet.....well...i zaw the improvement here in our place...though it haz less traffic and side walk vendors are gone...and they made the police station and the plaza bigger....for me i guezz that iz achievement...(ngek!) well ive been livin here since 1984 and there are no changes till Arroyo sitz and all of a sudden the place become quite.......better....a little...but i appreciate it though....LOL!  Oh how i wish thiz country will move far and fast....push it push it! LOL!  kidding aside there is no place to live in but here...zo i need to be aware of everything that surroundz me... They said Phillipinez has a gap of 10 years behind from other nations... And i believe in that...I az a Filipino believe that were 10 yrz behind from otherz...zo zad to accept but itz real. :(

OH GOD BLESS THE PHILIPPINES! :)

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by Bite_Me on May 15th, 2004, 2:50am
I think one of the reasons why as you say Tina, we are behind other nations is that we put too much faith in our leaders as a people. We think that a president is going to transform our lives into something better. Maybe not better but "different" as compared to how things are right now.

I vote not because i believe in the candidates. Elections here in the Philippines is no longer a choice between the best and the brightest. It is a choice between who is less corrupt, less sleazy and less evil.

I voted for Roco not because i think he is right for the presidency. I voted for him because i agree that educating the people is the best way to change our country. No person can single handedly change our nation's state of affairs now.

Democracy is supposed to be participatory governance. Our responsibility does not end after the elections. We are as guilty as our past leaders as to the state of nation is in now. It happened because we let it happen.

I saw a movie recently about the life of Hitler. There's one quote there. - "The only requirement for evil to prosper is for good people to do nothing."


Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by MissFartyPants on May 15th, 2004, 5:57am

on 05/15/04 at 02:50:53, Bite_Me wrote:
I think one of the reasons why as you say Tina, we are behind other nations is that we put too much faith in our leaders as a people. We think that a president is going to transform our lives into something better. Maybe not better but "different" as compared to how things are right now.

I vote not because i believe in the candidates. Elections here in the Philippines is no longer a choice between the best and the brightest. It is a choice between who is less corrupt, less sleazy and less evil.

I voted for Roco not because i think he is right for the presidency. I voted for him because i agree that educating the people is the best way to change our country. No person can single handedly change our nation's state of affairs now.

Democracy is supposed to be participatory governance. Our responsibility does not end after the elections. We are as guilty as our past leaders as to the state of nation is in now. It happened because we let it happen.

I saw a movie recently about the life of Hitler. There's one quote there. - "The only requirement for evil to prosper is for good people to do nothing."


Wow! My sentiments exactly! Verbatim.

I hate politics. I really freekeen hate politics! A choice of lesser evil. That's how I see it too. If I had a choice, I'd rather not participate. But I did. Not too happy about it, but it's my responsibilty.

Our government is a joke. Everything about the Philippines is a joke.

Treason? Oh heck! Just pin my hands to the wall.  ::)


Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by MissFartyPants on May 15th, 2004, 6:00am

on 03/09/04 at 20:16:31, mylane wrote:
ofcourse thats for sure that Roco will win over FPJ.

But sorry for Roco's fan but i find him so immature. That is not the act of a mature person. Would it be good to the Phillipines to have an immature president like him? He is so PIKON.



Roco is GAY!  ;D  

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by Bite_Me on May 15th, 2004, 10:05am
Yeah right Miss Farty.

Makes me want to become an NPA cadre and start shooting every politician at random.

If Roco is gay, what is Maceda? Gayer? (@lolz) :P

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by mylane on May 15th, 2004, 11:18am

on 05/15/04 at 05:57:39, MissFartyPants wrote:
Our government is a joke. Everything about the Philippines is a joke.



Philippines is NOT a joke. Think about our history. The past, all those trials, war and sacrifices that our national heroes done just for us to have our own freedom again.

Politics is one of the durtiest things in this world. And what's happening in our country right now also happened in other nation so it not so unique.

Philippines is a democratic country. Sovereignty resides in the ppl and all government authorities emanates from them (us filipinos)

It is not the fault of the government but the fault of the people.

Just like what's happening right now. The rivalry between POE and ARROYO. This shouldn't be happening  if the people learned and think about what happened in the past administration.  Lots of Filipino think that FPJ is a good man but that doesn't make him a good president.

We are the one putting  our country in such a dilemma.  Creating a cloud uncertainty to the future of our economy.  



Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by MissFartyPants on May 16th, 2004, 10:17pm
It all comes down to this: Quoting Bite_Me "we put too much faith in our leaders ".

On that note, let me rephrase what I stated previously.

Everything about the Philippines today is a joke. I'll stand by that until I'm six feet under.

I speak for myself and does not represent my tribe's sentiment/s.   ;D


Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by mylane on May 17th, 2004, 1:19am
I respect your view and your own sentiment.

here is  mine own sentiment as well.

If you say everthing about the Philippines TODAY is a joke, meaning the filipino of today is a joke too. Incase, your living in PI, then your included and can be called as a joke.

And in my case, I do not want to be a joke.

I hope that sentiment of yours will change before u get reach to that six fit under. :)

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by MissFartyPants on May 17th, 2004, 1:53am

on 05/17/04 at 01:19:36, mylane wrote:
I respect your view and your own sentiment.

here is  mine own sentiment as well.

If you say everthing about the Philippines TODAY is a joke, meaning the filipino of today is a joke too. Incase, your living in PI, then your included and can be called as a joke.

And in my case, I do not want to be a joke.

I hope that sentiment of yours will change before u get reach to that six fit under. :)


Yes I'm still in PI. Born and raised here. I don't mind being called a joke  ;D  Doesn't bother me at all.  ;)


Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by okasantina on May 17th, 2004, 8:27am

on 05/15/04 at 02:50:53, Bite_Me wrote:
I think one of the reasons why as you say Tina, we are behind other nations is that we put too much faith in our leaders as a people. We think that a president is going to transform our lives into something better. Maybe not better but "different" as compared to how things are right now.

I vote not because i believe in the candidates. Elections here in the Philippines is no longer a choice between the best and the brightest. It is a choice between who is less corrupt, less sleazy and less evil.

I voted for Roco not because i think he is right for the presidency. I voted for him because i agree that educating the people is the best way to change our country. No person can single handedly change our nation's state of affairs now.

Democracy is supposed to be participatory governance. Our responsibility does not end after the elections. We are as guilty as our past leaders as to the state of nation is in now. It happened because we let it happen.

I saw a movie recently about the life of Hitler. There's one quote there. - "The only requirement for evil to prosper is for good people to do nothing."



I agree to what you zaid Bite_me aka Cleo...were zo much patronizing our govt. leaderz thinking that they may change the PI inztantly....Filipinoz from rugz to richez! Thatz impozzible!!!   :o :o i think we, the people itzelf zhould do zomething about it >:(  

Well...i rezpect ure decizion of votin for Roco...of courze Bicolanoz zpeakz for itzelf...My dad iz a Bicolano too...but when i azked him why he didnt vote for Roco he told me....Why would i vote for the perzon whom i know will looze for the election.... ::) make senze to me duh....

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Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by okasantina on May 17th, 2004, 8:51am

on 05/16/04 at 22:17:38, MissFartyPants wrote:
It all comes down to this: Quoting Bite_Me "we put too much faith in our leaders ".

On that note, let me rephrase what I stated previously.

Everything about the Philippines today is a joke. I'll stand by that until I'm six feet under.

I speak for myself and does not represent my tribe's sentiment/s.   ;D


hey Cathy ;)....Zo what u mean iz .... PI the place ure livin in right now and your dad ure mom az a Filipino ...and all the ppl that surroundz you now are JOKE to you??? ::) ??? Geezh ...zurviving in thiz kind of country....itz not a joke for me!! zeeing ppl tryin to eat 3 timez a day....workin hard from night and day juzt to zupport their own family....Lookin at ppl  in greed of power that even though u wanted to do something or anything about it but u cant   [smiley=bigcry.gif] ...you have no power....iz that a JOKE?? Itz deztiny i think......not a joke.... GOD zee uz in our own movementz thinkin what thiz perzon would do neXt?? Good or Bad...Right or Wrong...Truth or Dishonezty.....JOKE??? I didnt get it [smiley=thump.gif]

So i guezz you know how it feelz to be a joke huh?
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Well...who wantz to be called a Joke....what a shame if that iz zo.....I for one .... i would be ashame if zomeone would zay that PI iz a joke???  [smiley=popcorn.gif]......

What would other ppl or other nationz will think about uz....we a JOKE?? Who will get zeriouz by then???

Oh Cathy...i like the pozt that you zaid....LOL! It made me react thiz way eh...hehehe ...well im not takin thiz perzonally....juzt think that we are having a drink in my living room ok?? ;D [smiley=icon_drink2.gif]

Ooopz [smiley=sla.gif] and one more thing....I am willin to nail and buried you siX feet under...hehehe! ;D jk :-*



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Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by mylane on May 17th, 2004, 11:50am

on 05/17/04 at 01:53:37, MissFartyPants wrote:
Yes I'm still in PI. Born and raised here. I don't mind being called a joke  ;D  Doesn't bother me at all.  ;)



This one of the strong reason  why the Philippines is not progressing. Like I said in my previous post, it is all about the people, fault of the people.

People already lost hope for their own country and hope for themselves too, to the point that they don't even take themselves seriously.

Cuz Tina, no personal attack here. We all just exchanging our point of view. Give a drink will yah. ;)

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by okasantina on May 17th, 2004, 12:13pm
ok here cuz mymy .... cheerz ....  [smiley=icon_drink2.gif]

how about u cathy? u ztill have ure beer??  [smiley=icon_drink.gif]

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by Bite_Me on May 18th, 2004, 8:29am
I think it was Shakespeare who said "Life for thinkers is comedy; and for the feelers, a tragedy."

I'd like to think of Miss Farty there as being a thinker. In a world that beats your dreams out you, being a nut is a form of courage. Oh i didn't say that by the way. I believe i read that somewhere. Can't remember where.

Tina and My are feelers. They are ruled by their hearts.

Some people find more courage when they don't think about things "seriously". When you do not act as if you got  the whole world in your hands, it don't mean you care less. Or that your capability for believing in goodness is lessened.

As for voting for a candidate who is going to lose anyway: I think that the very nature of elections is for us to select which one we want to lead us. Yes, the person i voted for lost and will probably not win in any near future. But that's okay. I'd rather vote for someone i believe in, than vote for someone whose movies i will not even pay to see in the cinemas or vote for someone in exchange of PhilHealth cards and other services where the taxpayers' money have been used to buy favor. Elections is one way of saying, "No way, you do not represent me". But i am an advocate for democracy, that is why i respect whoever the majority of the people chose. Just like the person i voted for, i will not cry "Fraud" or whatever. All i say can is, we deserve the kind of governance we have because we elected them into office.

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by mylane on May 18th, 2004, 11:47am

on 05/18/04 at 08:29:38, Bite_Me wrote:
I think it was Shakespeare who said "Life for thinkers is comedy; and for the feelers, a tragedy."


I'm not a fan of Shakespeare so i do not know much of his wordly wisdom.


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In a world that beats your dreams out you, being a nut is a form of courage. Oh i didn't say that by the way. I believe i read that somewhere. Can't remember where.


I wish you can remember it Miss Bite , so i can read it,  then we can exchange opinion.


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Tina and My are feelers. They are ruled by their hearts.


We're not just being a feelers, we're also being optimistic. And being optimistic makes a person a deep thinker too.


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Some people find more courage when they don't think about things "seriously". When you do not act as if you got  the whole world in your hands, it don't mean you care less. Or that your capability for believing in goodness is lessened.


I totally agree with this statement. It just that you act depends on what environment and what kind of people you mingling.



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But i am an advocate for democracy, that is why i respect whoever the majority of the people chose. Just like the person i voted for, i will not cry "Fraud" or whatever.


I'm glad to hear that your one of an advocate of democracy, same here.  ;D

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by okasantina on May 18th, 2004, 12:47pm

on 05/18/04 at 08:29:38, Bite_Me wrote:
Tina and My are feelers. They are ruled by their hearts.

Some people find more courage when they don't think about things "seriously". When you do not act as if you got  the whole world in your hands, it don't mean you care less. Or that your capability for believing in goodness is lessened.
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Before i comment on ms farty post, i think before i react. i can be thinker and feeler at the same time. and thats the outcome if the that two qualities combined.  ;) The fact that I have a prefer for one judgment mode (thinking or feeling) says nothing about their ability in the other mode - feelers like me az what you zaid may be logical and decisive, thinkers like mz. farty  may be sensitive and compassionate, and both types have strengths. However, the two types have different needs and difficulties, which manifest themselves in almost every aspect of education.  So my point iz.......we Feelerz whatever....are inclined to give more weight to subjective, personal considerations in making decisions and place great value on building consensus and maintaining harmony. People with a strong preference for feeling are often thought of as warm and empathetic, tend to be more tactful than truthful, and often consider strong thinkers insensitive and overly analytical
;D I thnk itz all zaid and done. ;)


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Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by okasantina on May 18th, 2004, 1:30pm
oh by the way.....PS... ;D

Meanz we eXist in our minds personally,  considerin decisions not for others but for our own personal intentions.....zo we often lead to majority.  If u decide on one judgement...u will weigh for ure own eXIZTING Mind.  About on what mz. farty sayin that is a joke....where is the senzitivity? Itz over critical i think.....A thinker no feelinz pure mind .....
And one more thing i didnt borrow otherz mind or idea....it all comez from me and how i think i zhould pozt.... ;)  As what i know....Thinkers tend to base decisions primarily on objective reasoning and will stick to their opinions until they are proven wrong logically. People with a strong preference for thinking are often thought of as impartial and rational, tend to be more truthful than tactful.....bazically the oppozite of feelerz.... :D ;)And besidez i stand on wat i believe and not to be inconsistent....chuk chak tra lala.....


azuzzzzzzzz!

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Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by gracia on Jun 20th, 2004, 10:33pm
So now.........officially GMA won!  

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by mylane on Jun 21st, 2004, 12:08am
yeah the dillemma between GMA and FPJ.

It is better to have GMA instead of FPJ.

No other choice. Lets pray for the best.

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by serious_block on Jun 21st, 2004, 3:21am
Yeah right mylane,... pray for the best, because as of now, i'm expecting the worst from our government. With GMA in office, it'll only lead us into an abyss of world debt. GMA will make our country a fourth world one, if there is such a thing.

She's the worst thing that happened to this country!
ERAP is a close second!
Marcos is a distant third!










Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by mylane on Jun 21st, 2004, 9:18am
I just watched the news a while ago and Miriam Defensor really cracked me up.

She said that FPJ should accept if ever the GMA administration offered him a position in the government.

She also said that the if ever FPJ will do a movie again its not gonna be successful or might turn into one of those flop movies except if his is going to be nude.

Not to mention Miriam's advice to Pimentel: Instead of filibustering, to "write his memoirs. It's far more interesting than the speech he delivered last Tuesday.
Especially his sexual exploits, which I suspect is very active."

Oh, Miriam is really getting bitchy indeed.

She even mentioned  about begging and suxing the administration toe.

Miriam is not a neophyte in the bloodied political arena. She certainly has been through a lot of ordeals and wranglings and her words now have a semblance of wisdom from a person too tired of politics yet can't breathe without it.

But her credibility, is shaky because she has been known to contradict her own statements and she is prone to jumping ships when her political boat is sinking.

Let just hope that she will  concentrate on doing a good job in the senate making sensible laws than using her acid tongue and allow herself to be used by political allies to lambast those whose asses she used to kiss with reverence.

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by mylane on Jun 21st, 2004, 9:29am

on 06/21/04 at 03:21:53, serious_block wrote:
Yeah right mylane,... pray for the best, because as of now, i'm expecting the worst from our government. With GMA in office, it'll only lead us into an abyss of world debt. GMA will make our country a fourth world one, if there is such a thing.

She's the worst thing that happened to this country!
ERAP is a close second!
Marcos is a distant third!


Actually, what I'm more afraid of are those people around Gloria especially her fat corrupt husband. Should I mention Fidel Ramos?

One thing I'm sure with this GMA victory is the coming back of US military based in Olonggapo. She almost kissed Bush ass when Bush visited PI.

Marcos should have been better without Imelda.

As for Erap, he is just a victim and his being ignorant and naive cost him alot.

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by thebeast on Jun 30th, 2004, 11:23pm
I think the US military would be a good thing for the Phillippines. I would try to get the army, navy, and the air force there if possible. Hell those GIs spend a lot of money and with new military bases means lots of civilian jobs. The United States Government is the largest employer here in the states for both military and civilian jobs. Phillipines should of never let them go in the first place. Maybe some kind of deal could be made to take care of all of the radicals in no mans land (aka the provinces). Those dudes are killing the phillippines tourism industry. I talked with a dude the other day. He said he had a gf there in PI in one of the provinces, but he was scared to go back because he was scared because he might get kidnapped and held for ransom and his family wouldnt pay it. They would just say keep him.

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by mylane on Jul 1st, 2004, 4:23pm

on 06/30/04 at 23:23:55, thebeast wrote:
I think the US military would be a good thing for the Phillippines.


Yes I agree


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Phillipines should of never let them go in the first place.


There is a big reason why the US Military based was removed in Olongapo.


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Those dudes are killing the philippines tourism industry.


Lets be specific, the only part of the Philippines that is dangerous to the tourist are the Mindanao area.



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I talked with a dude the other day. He said he had a gf there in PI in one of the provinces, but he was scared to go back because he was scared because he might get kidnapped and held for ransom and his family wouldnt pay it. They would just say keep him.


Where exactly in PI his gf located anyway?

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by thebeast on Jul 3rd, 2004, 1:58pm
Mylene, I was talking with a guy I graduated with at my high school reunion. I didnt know him very well and I was on my 20th beer when I was talking with him probably.  He told me the place where his gf was at but I forgot. These sugestions I made are not the panecea for the phillippines or any other 3rd world country or any country at all for that matter. What every country needs is a government thats not corrupt. And even with a legitimate government in charge it is still not that easy. It takes time and a whole lot of change and a people who is willing to sacrafice thier time and sometimes even thier own lives for what they believe in. This is not an easy task to accomplish because everyone is different so it also takes a little give and take into the mix as well. Also equal rights for both sexes and all different races has a lot to do with it as well. Things arent perfect anywhere not even here in the United States. I think it would be benificial for both the United States and the Phillippines to have a good economic relationship. Over the years I have met lots of people on here from and living in the Phillippines. I think they are wonderful people and that even includes you mylene. So if I sound like I am putting down your country or if I sound like a know it all on phillippine politics and the problems the wonderful phillippine people face over there that is not my intention.  ;)

Title: Re: Phillippine Election 2004
Post by mylane on Jul 5th, 2004, 3:08am

on 07/03/04 at 13:58:36, thebeast wrote:

What every country needs is a government thats not corrupt.


I don't think there is such a government like that, no matter wat we do there will always be a corrupt in every government.


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I think it would be benificial for both the United States and the Phillippines to have a good economic relationship.


Eversince US and the Philippines have a good economic relationship.



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