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(Message started by: mylane on Nov 15th, 2004, 4:55pm)

Title: Is religion good or bad?
Post by mylane on Nov 15th, 2004, 4:55pm
Is religion good or bad?

Do you we really need one to survive?

Well I'm a Catholic, eventhough I subcribed to the faith  of catholic doctrine and beliefs, I myself have reservation about religion and  its relevance to our life.

We all know that aside from the GOOD  things that people do in the name of religion also a  lot of WRONG things are also being committed on the same pretext.

War and destruction because of or inspite of religion. We also see disunity and hypocrisy reigning side by side with religion.

To further elaborate the issue, Is religion a must for our existence? And for what reason?  


Title: Re: Is religion good or bad?
Post by gracia on Nov 16th, 2004, 5:15am
For me religion is good.  I'm a Roman Catholic and i believe on the existence of God in me.  The war of religion exist because of pride and if one believes in God and has faith in Him, pride is nowhere to be found or if there is, it will not come to a point to making war.  I do believe that God lives in each one of us, whether we like it or not, and He is just there waiting for our call, regardless of which religion we are in. For me its very important, because i'm so dependent on Him and that I do believe that I'm a mess without HIm.  I'm a sinner yes, but that wont hinder me to come to God.  Believing in HIm doesnt mean u become perfect, human as we are, we often commit mistakes and God knows that, that is why He did not come for the righteous but for the sinners.  

Title: Re: Is religion good or bad?
Post by thebeast on Nov 16th, 2004, 7:52am
Religion can be either good or bad. It depends on what you are using it for. If you use it to make your life more complete and for true happiness, understanding, and content its a good thing. But if you use it to control and limit yourself or others in the pursuit of happiness then I would say it isnt so great. Religion and politics/government/business dont work. Anyone who would consider killing themselves and others as a holy thing is a certified nutcase. Calling war holy is the most silly thing I have ever heard of. I dont care what kinda GOD you worship. If its a real GOD he dont want you to hate and kill. All war does is make life miserable.  All these fatnatics need to realize that they live in a world that was not created just for them. Thats why there is all this trouble in the world today. Religion should be not forgoten but seperate from politics/government/business. To me religion is personal. Its between myself and GOD. That dont mean that I dont worship GOD all alone. Worshiping with others is a good thing. It brings people together. Even here in America we have some of the biggest religious hypocrites. Im a southern Baptists. Southern Baptists believe dancing and drinking is a sin. Well screw that. Im not sure how they came up with that. One of my old gf had a father who was a preahcer and I asked him if its a sin how come they did it in the bible? He told me that it was done in the bible to celebrate GOD's love for us and his grace. I didnt buy it then and I dont buy it now. I dont see how it could be that way. It cant be good on one day and then bad on another day. If its good its good. If its bad its bad. It depends on how you do it. If you put dancing and drinking as more important than the GOD ALLMIGHTY,  then its bad. But if you just do it to have some fun everyonce in a while in order to make this long bumpy road a little more pleasureable then whats the harm? If you do it in a responsible manner then I dont think its a sin.

Title: Re: Is religion good or bad?
Post by Hernando on Nov 16th, 2004, 6:54pm
Some religions may be bad, but i know i speak for a fact when I say that Christianity is not and never was a bad religion. Its not the religion but the people who use religion to further their fanatical views on their religion that give religion a bad name.

Title: Re: Is religion good or bad?
Post by norkay on Nov 17th, 2004, 6:38am

on 11/16/04 at 18:54:50, Hernando wrote:
Some religions may be bad, but i know i speak for a fact when I say that Christianity is not and never was a bad religion. Its not the religion but the people who use religion to further their fanatical views on their religion that give religion a bad name.

Absolutely, Hernando




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Baptists believe dancing and drinking is a sin. Well screw that. Im not sure how they came up with that. One of my old gf had a father who was a preahcer and I asked him if its a sin how come they did it in the bible? If its good its good. If its bad its bad. It depends on how you do it. If you put dancing and drinking as more important than the GOD ALLMIGHTY,  then its bad. But if you just do it to have some fun everyonce in a while in order to make this long bumpy road a little more pleasureable then whats the harm? If you do it in a responsible manner then I dont think its a sin.

HI JOEL, Im also a Baptist but i think not only this religion that believes drinking and dancing are sins.I think you answered and even have explained your own question.If the acts of drinking and dancing are done in a wrong way or done with a bad purpose ofcourse it's a sin.We read drinking was also done in the Bible but in an apropriate manner so that means that when we do,it should be like that way...it shouldnt cuases us to sin.(Uh oh dont look at me like that...ha ha! i know i still sometimes get drunk..ha ha..just explaining :P) Dancing also becomes a sin when it is done in a dirty way.For example, when i was still a student in Manila, i had a friend and also a classmate from Cavite that invited me to attend her debut celebration and they lived near their plaza.I asked her what's the party there because i saw people like having party with a very loud music.She said they're dancing while they raise funds and i asked how and she explained that the girls were being paid everytime a man makes a dance with the girl he wants to dance with.I was speachless especially when i heard about how much for every dance and she even said they would stay there 'til dawn waiting for men to dance and pay for them :-[ . I believe this is  one explaination when dancing becomes sin.Dancing in a dirty way for money is a sin.So with other things, anything could be a sin if done improperly.

Title: Re: Is religion good or bad?
Post by tarantada on Nov 17th, 2004, 6:52am
Religion is neutral. It just  depends on who is in control of it that counts. If we have a religion that is uncooperative to the state then this spells disaster.

Title: Re: Is religion good or bad?
Post by nelson3082000 on Nov 29th, 2004, 10:18am
depends on the individual

Title: Re: Is religion good or bad?
Post by norkay on Jan 20th, 2005, 5:36am
First of all,what's the purpose of religion?
As for my take on religion, i see it solely as a God given guide to how life should be lived. Christianity possesses a very adequate moral code, a code which many of our societies are based upon to this day. Control has nothing to do with it. I willingly submit to God because that is my choice, i want to(many things i still have to surrender,though). I could just as soon elect otherwise.

Religion isn't necessarily an evil thing. Religion in the wrong hands and minds can be dangerous, like in the example given about the emperor. When i see the phrase "holy-war", i instantly look to the instigators of the war and question their motives behind such destruction (be it money, power, conquest, glory).Religion builds a community, provides answers for the unknown, and gives a moral code. Sadly, too many use it as a crutch/scapegoat.



Title: Re: Is religion good or bad?
Post by Wicked_Witch on Sep 12th, 2005, 1:59am
Religion is good for me. Because every religion has its own doctrines or teachings. I have to believe in something good so I can use it to guide me in my everyday existence. I think heaven or hell too is here on earth.  If you live in peace and in constant communication with God, that is heaven for me. If you see the people you care about in good health and free of worries, that is heaven. If you do good deeds and people shows their appreciation by loving you more and giving you more respects, that is heaven. But if you live your life in sins and you live constantly in fear and worries, then that's hell for me.

Title: Re: Is religion good or bad?
Post by capuchino on Oct 1st, 2005, 8:22pm
all religion is Good...i find myself more spiritual then religius ;D
well we all believe in God just that we have different way... ;D

Title: Re: Is religion good or bad?
Post by Gracia on Oct 15th, 2005, 6:46pm
Religion is good if it will mold you to become a better person ...if it's otherwise ..then it's not good.

Title: Re: Is religion good or bad?
Post by dancin tOe on Dec 16th, 2005, 10:30am
theres no religion teach you bad thing...all depends on the person.... ;)

Title: Re: Is religion good or bad?
Post by dOnUtz 9urL on Dec 16th, 2005, 8:08pm
yup! all religions teach us all good things, good behaviour, good morality, respect, etc etc. but all depends on the person, if they did it, its very good, but if they just ''using'' it for particular reason, then it will be bad.

Title: Re: Is religion good or bad?
Post by wildheart41004 on Dec 26th, 2005, 8:27pm
Religion is beyond good...thats what is wrong with the USA...liberals taking ten commandments down and more sex and violence in movies

Title: Re: Is religion good or bad?
Post by Wicked_Witch on Dec 27th, 2005, 5:16am

on 12/16/05 at 10:30:01, dancin tOe wrote:
theres no religion teach you bad thing...all depends on the person.... ;)



What about cults? Aren't they considered as religion also? How about those fanatics? :P

Title: Re: Is religion good or bad?
Post by Justine on Dec 27th, 2005, 4:29pm
My girls do not go to any of the best schools in our place, but to the nearest catholic one.  It does not really matter to me what religion, as long as a person has one.  I grew up with friends with various religions and everything went well.  And even in my family, not all are catholics and things are going well.  For us, having a religion and keeping faith is important and that no matter what we call our Gods, it's still one God.  

Title: Re: Is religion good or bad?
Post by wildheart41004 on Dec 27th, 2005, 5:54pm

on 12/27/05 at 16:29:54, Justine wrote:
My girls do not go to any of the best schools in our place, but to the nearest catholic one.  It does not really matter to me what religion, as long as a person has one.  I grew up with friends with various religions and everything went well.  And even in my family, not all are catholics and things are going well.  For us, having a religion and keeping faith is important and that no matter what we call our Gods, it's still one God.  



well said

Title: Re: Is religion good or bad?
Post by Jimbo on Jan 4th, 2006, 5:01am
No Wonder the schools in America are failing so bad
News  
01/03/2006  20:16:56 EST Board Rescinds 'Intelligent Design' Policy
By MARTHA RAFFAELE
Associated Press Writer

DOVER, Pa. - The Dover school board on Tuesday rescinded its policy of presenting "intelligent design" as an alternative to evolution in high school biology classes, two weeks after a federal judge found the concept was religious and not scientific.
There was no discussion by members of the Dover Area School Board before the voice vote Tuesday night.

The policy, approved in October 2004, required that a statement be read to students about "intelligent design" before ninth-grade lessons on evolution. The statement said Darwin's theory is "not a fact" and has inexplicable "gaps." It referred students to an "intelligent-design" book.

On Dec. 20, U.S. District Judge John E. Jones III sided with eight families who argued that "intelligent design," which attributes the existence of complex organisms to an unidentified intelligent cause, is biblical creationism in disguise.

The school board said it was trying to improve science education by exposing students to alternatives.

But the judge said the board's real purpose was "to promote religion in the public school classroom," and said intelligent design could not be taught as an alternative to evolution in biology classes.

Most of the school board incumbents who had defended the policy were ousted in the November election, replaced by candidates who pledged to eliminate it.

The policy and federal lawsuit added fuel to a national debate over "intelligent design."


God was expelled
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Title: Re: Is religion good or bad?
Post by Wicked_Witch on Jan 8th, 2006, 8:31am
Go live in some christian country, Jimbo ;D, Philippines is the cheapest, btw ;D

Title: Re: Is religion good or bad?
Post by Jimbo on Jan 8th, 2006, 10:08am

on 01/08/06 at 08:31:41, Wicked_Witch wrote:
Go live in some christian country, Jimbo ;D, Philippines is the cheapest, btw ;D

I agree it is the cheapest Witchy, but after what just happened 2 days ago, which I posted, I am losing faith in people :'( Someone from the Phillipines got my bank card number, called Western Union and tried to wire money to Viet Nam to be picked up, then re wired back to the Phillipines :-/ I caught it and foiled the attempt and have turned the matter over to the Phillipine Embassy, the American Embassy and the Federal Trade Comission...We know who it was, and action is being taken...3 major felonys were comitted..I won't get in to the details :-X

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Title: Re: Is religion good or bad?
Post by Wicked_Witch on Jan 8th, 2006, 10:18am

on 01/08/06 at 10:08:56, Jimbo wrote:
I agree it is the cheapest Witchy, but after what just happened 2 days ago, which I posted, I am losing faith in people :'( Someone from the Phillipines got my bank card number, called Western Union and tried to wire money to Viet Nam to be picked up, then re wired back to the Phillipines :-/ I caught it and foiled the attempt and have turned the matter over to the Phillipine Embassy, the American Embassy and the Federal Trade Comission...We know who it was, and action is being taken...3 major felonys were comitted..I won't get in to the details :-X

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Sheez...don't blame the entire population for the crime of one, pls! It's your fault anyway for getting involve with that person.[
:P

Title: Re: Is religion good or bad?
Post by Jimbo on Jan 8th, 2006, 10:29am

on 01/08/06 at 10:18:41, Wicked_Witch wrote:
Sheez...don't blame the entire population for the crime of one, pls! It's your fault anyway for getting involve with that person.[
:P

I am not blaming the population ???  I am not involved with anyone, and haven't been since 2003..it is my fault that someone hacked into a site on the internet and got my numbers? ???...The card has been cancelled anyhow long ago...now it becomes their problem

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Title: Re: Is religion good or bad?
Post by nOrKAy on Jan 8th, 2006, 11:01am


Jimbo,
Before I had finally chosen the job I want to work permanently, I worked with Western Union HK. I am sure they have one world policy-- they never allow something like that , like changing or giving any informations or details through phone. You can inquire through phone but can never do any changes. You have to personally go to their office.

Nonetheless, I don't know the whole story of your issue.



Let us go back to the main topic. Thank you.

Title: Re: Is religion good or bad?
Post by Kitch on Feb 7th, 2006, 8:45am
I notice a lot of people make comments about religion and war.  Before you associate war and religion lets look at two very secular society Soviet Russia killed over 90 million people during peace time which is a low estimate and then Nazi Germany between those two Athiest cultures they killed more people then all the wars over religion combined.  Something else to think about St Augustine put it the best when he said " you can't judge a dogma by those who abuse the Dogma



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