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(Message started by: mylane on Nov 19^th, 2004, 7:14pm)

Title: Is Judas A Victim Of God's Plan Of Salvation?
Post by mylane on Nov 19^th, 2004, 7:14pm

If Judas never betrayed Jesus then the plan of salvation will never happened.

So is Judas A Victim Of God's Plan Of Salvation? What do you guys think?

Let's hear you opinion.

Title: Re: Is Judas A Victim Of God's Plan Of Salvation?
Post by theragon on Jan 20^th, 2005, 5:51am

I live in the midwest- USA. A wonderfull little town. And once a year, third week of June, we have a festival. At the end, on Saturday, there's a parade. Big event. Lots of fire trucks and police car, with sireans blairing, marching bands, and lots of flotes. Pretty girls on top of convertables, hoping to be festival queen. And thousands of people. And in the middle of it all is my two story brick house, with front porch, were i sit and watch the festivities. From my perspective, i can see a little bit coming and a little bit thats past. But if I were in a helicoptor, i could see the beginning and end all at once. Kinda like live. I see whats happening now, but from Gods perspective (Isaiah 46:10 teaches) He alone knows the end from the beginning. God knew Judas would betray Jesus, thats why He came at the appointed time. God knew Mary would choose to give birth, and He knew Adam would start the whole thing rolling. Adams sin didn't take God by surprize. We too have choices. To die for our own sins, or to except Gods gift, that Jesus paid for our sins with His own death. "Its your choice."

Title: Re: Is Judas A Victim Of God's Plan Of Salvation?
Post by Kitch on Jan 25^th, 2006, 8:49am

Is Judas a victim I would have to say No. God uses the evil of mans heart to full fill is will.