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(Message started by: tarantada on Feb 22nd, 2004, 8:25am)
Title: FAMILY PLANNING/BIRTH CONTROL
Post by tarantada on Feb 22nd, 2004, 8:25am
Are you in favor of Family Planning methods or follow the church not to use them?


What's your position on this family planning and the church issue?

Who do you  think is more right?
Title: Re: FAMILY PLANNING/BIRTH CONTROL
Post by teagirl on Feb 22nd, 2004, 4:43pm
Being in the healthcare industry (industry?), I have seen a lot of things that somehow make you question a lot of things. Its not true that medicine and religion are always at odd with each other but there are times when they are.

As a healthcare worker, I am for family planning especially here in P.I. I have seen a lot of neglect, malnutrition and diseases among kids that you wonder why the parents are allowed to have more. I also suggest protection for teeners against unwanted pregnancies and STD.

As a christian, and a Catholic at that, I'm caught between the devil and the deep blue sea. Although there are doctors that really refuse ligation like one well known Ob-Gyn in my hospital gives her patients to other doctors when they request ligation and I respect her for that.

Its controversial. But I guess it all depends on the individual where he/she stands.

What I cant deal with, however, is abortion. I AM AGAINST ABORTION --- choice or not, birth control or not,  it's still murder.
Title: Re: FAMILY PLANNING/BIRTH CONTROL
Post by thebeast on Feb 22nd, 2004, 10:49pm
I dont think anyone likes to be told how to run thier personal life or family. Whether it be the church or government. We all have to make certain choices with GODs help that might not agree with the Church or our own governments. U make choices which are best for your family and then you live with the choices you make. Its not a question of whats right or wrong its a question of whats best.
Title: Re: FAMILY PLANNING/BIRTH CONTROL
Post by gracia on Feb 23rd, 2004, 8:48pm
those couples who are not ready to have a baby yet or not ready to have another baby must use birth control or they'll end up in abortion which is worse.  The church has accepted the rhythm method but its still the couples prerogative which one to use.  And all depends on the parents as well, if they want more, then more they'll have.
Title: Re: FAMILY PLANNING/BIRTH CONTROL
Post by okasantina on Mar 31st, 2004, 9:13am

on 02/22/04 at 22:49:12, thebeast wrote:
I dont think anyone likes to be told how to run thier personal life or family. Whether it be the church or government. We all have to make certain choices with GODs help that might not agree with the Church or our own governments. U make choices which are best for your family and then you live with the choices you make. Its not a question of whats right or wrong its a question of whats best.



Impressive beast Joel ;) and i agree to that...i believe and fear GOD but i know what is best for me and my family.  Its our own choice of how to live without it...And GOD knows how can we deal about it....its a matter of choice of deciding what is best.  Do other ppl think about it?  When they dont have any food on d table w so many kids around?? dad w no work...kids w no food to eat....mom that is lousy .... which is better?? Im sure GOD dont like that scenery right?  ;) :)
Title: Re: FAMILY PLANNING/BIRTH CONTROL
Post by kim on Dec 6th, 2004, 10:54am
family planning and birth control is your right but it is also your responsibility. I too dont like it when people tell me what to do.. but the thing is most of the times you should already know what you should do... they just give the opions and its up to you what you would do. Its not fair to do things just coz you didnt liked it when you were told not to do it.

think of whats best for you and the people around you then decide what to do... I am for birth control... I'm taking pills right now because i was to be responsible and mature about my actions ( If anyone wants the brand i'm using just ask  ;) its mild and i found that it has no side effects fo me  ;D )
Title: Re: FAMILY PLANNING/BIRTH CONTROL
Post by nelson3082000 on Dec 7th, 2004, 5:16am
lolz reading here am sorry to laugh what ahs the church got to do with the individual.if u decide to have an abortion there must be a good reason,like one said above lets bring all children into the world and let them get diseseses and let them suferr more is that what people are saying rather then abortion, thats why i guess here in australia we dont have many kids out on the street becuse we do the right thing with people not follow outdated reilgious believes
Title: Re: FAMILY PLANNING/BIRTH CONTROL
Post by kim on Dec 9th, 2004, 4:36am

on 12/07/04 at 05:16:31, nelson3082000 wrote:
lolz reading here am sorry to laugh what ahs the church got to do with the individual.if u decide to have an abortion there must be a good reason,like one said above lets bring all children into the world and let them get diseseses and let them suferr more is that what people are saying rather then abortion, thats why i guess here in australia we dont have many kids out on the street becuse we do the right thing with people not follow outdated reilgious believes



I dont have anything against any religion.. But dont ask me to comment on any relegion coz it will start a looooooong conversation.  ;)

Neslon The philippines has so many different types of relegion but majority of the Filipinos are Catholics. I dont know why but for som reason i think no one actually abides by the "separation of church and state" law anymore. I think or real president is the cardinal  ;D (No offense to anyone)...
Title: Re: FAMILY PLANNING/BIRTH CONTROL
Post by kim on Dec 9th, 2004, 4:36am
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The Philippines is Asia’s only Catholic nation, and the Church’s strong opposition to contraception and abortion has been felt within Philippine society and government. Only 22% of married couples in the Philippines use contraceptives.116 In 1986, the constitution incorporated provisions giving the right to life "from the moment of conception.”117

The result has been a growing reliance on illegal abortion, with the accompanying rise in the medical complication rate.118 Septic abortion is the tenth most common cause of hospitalization of Filipino women.119 The abandonment or selling of unwanted babies is another disturbing consequence.

In 1992, the government under Protestant President Fidel Ramos announced it would step up its family planning programmes and promote the use of artificial contraception in order to curb population growth. Catholic organizations have vowed to "fight to the death" against this official family planning campaign,120 and have organized public protests.

http://www.cbctrust.com/abortion.html#40
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Archbishop Cruz argued that the government should address poverty directly, rather than seeking to put pressure on families to curb population. Affirming the opposition of the Catholic Church to artificial methods of birth control, he promised that the hierarchy would try to mobilize the Catholic people-- who account for over 70 percent of the country's population-- against the family-planning effort.

http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=31271
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I dont understand why the Catholic church oposess on family planning and on abortion at the same time. Natural FAmily plannign is far more complicated and than those family planning methods by the government. But it would work either way right? Sad to say majoriy of Us filipinos dont even stop and think about any of these methods... All they want is to have sex and have fun...

I might get into trouble for saying this but i'lls ay it anyways.... I'm taking pills.. does that mean i'm going to hell for it? And i challenge the catholic church to make their so called "Natural Family Plannign method" work. Since %70 of FIlipinos are catholic then they should be able to control the population if all their catholic followers will follow them. As if majority of the catholic even follow them... There are some who follow what their church says but most only follow what is convenient for them.

Abortion... family planning... birth control and safe sex are all choices that each individual may or may not practice. For one thing, it it human nature to rebel against something that is forced to you specially if you dont understand it. So educating the people about these topics will go a long way. Let us stop... think... and analize each side then deside whats best for us..

Specially the women because it is your responsibility to take care of yourself. If you had sex and you got pregnant you cant say its the guys fault because he didn't withdraw... IT takes two to tango  ;)... And if you grt pregnant and the guy doesnt want to take the responsibility for it then you'll be left alone to handle the situation... abort the baby... it will be your consience and not the guy. ANd if you are caught you'll take the fal for it and not the guy. If you chose to have the baby then its your choice and responsibility again to raise the child... TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF GIRLS... BECAUSE GUYS WONT DO IT FOR YOU  ;) ;D
Title: Re: FAMILY PLANNING/BIRTH CONTROL
Post by norkay on Dec 9th, 2004, 6:23am
By Kim

Quote:
I might get into trouble for saying this but i'lls ay it anyways.... I'm taking pills.. does that mean i'm going to hell for it? And i challenge the catholic church to make their so called "Natural Family Plannign method" work. Since %70 of FIlipinos are catholic then they should be able to control the population if all their catholic followers will follow them. As if majority of the catholic even follow them... There are some who follow what their church says but most only follow what is convenient for them.


Please dont get me wrong Kim ;) but since you put a question mark there,here is my idea.You asked if you're going to hell because of taking pills as contraceptive,well you know that is a sin but you still do it and not because God always forgives,we are free to do whatever we wanna do and say"God will forgive me anyway".We have to remember,we will be put into judgement according to what we have done.Take for example when you were still young taken care by your mom,did she not whip or punish you when you did something wrong especially if she knew you knew it was wrong and you still did it? I am not trying to stop you but my dear, i am sure you know the side effects of taking it especially if you're taking it for a long time already,and especially if you still want to have a healthy baby soon  ;D.Just a thought sweety. ;) ;D

Yes majority of the Filipinos is Catholic but i think we can not base on how effective the church can implement this kind of birth control method "Natural Family Planning" and no matter what kind of family planning is to be implemented, the result still relies on people's choice.We can never control a family about its plan in having children but since it's the Catholic church that would be implementing this and majority of the Filipinos is Catholic,it should be here then or in this way we can see how people show their devotions,their faith and respect on their church.So i think no matter how much effort any church does to control the growing population in the Philippines, if we dont consider following our church belief (if they for example will implement that kind of family planning) is one way of showing our love,faith and respect to God, the plan will never be done.Sometimes,i go with the idea of implementing the law for this problem.If the Philippines really can not accomodate anymore the population, law must be implemented.But again, if law will be implemented, commiting sins will become worse because sex will just be like a game because we will be able to have/do it anytime we want with anyone without worrying about getting pregnant,women would be degraded,and relevance of marriage will detoriarate.So thinking and discussing about this, i will go with the opinion that EDUCATION IS A MUST about this kind of matter.I mean,the goverment and the church must work together in educating the people about family planning, and soon, people will learn how to worry and fear about having many children.
Title: Re: FAMILY PLANNING/BIRTH CONTROL
Post by nelson3082000 on Dec 9th, 2004, 7:45am
so is that why many philliphino people immigrate to different countries becuse there country is so great and clean and has the best family planning laws,no its overcrowded and polluted and has many people without homes and without food its amazing theses views really it is.
Title: Re: FAMILY PLANNING/BIRTH CONTROL
Post by norkay on Dec 9th, 2004, 9:58am

on 12/09/04 at 07:45:12, nelson3082000 wrote:
so is that why many philliphino people immigrate to different countries becuse there country is so great and clean and has the best family planning laws,no its overcrowded and polluted and has many people without homes and without food its amazing theses views really it is.


Migrating to other countries has nothing to do with birth control Nelson.We Filipinos can still have as many children as we want wherever we are,the only problem is the hardship of raising them and it's not resolving the problem of over population in our country.Mostly the reason why Filipinos need to migrate or go abroad is to seek jobs.One of the biggest problem in the Philippines is unemployment,and that's one main reason why Filipinos are scattered everywhere the globe and not because other countries are cleaner,or whatever....there are many things or reasons why we love the Philippines very much and that's why we try to do something to make it even better.We love and are very proud of our country like you do with your country, Australia.


P.S
Please be aware also in spelling  ;D
PHILIPPINES- the country
FILIPINOS- the citizens
Title: Re: FAMILY PLANNING/BIRTH CONTROL
Post by nelson3082000 on Dec 9th, 2004, 10:21am
hahah i like my spelling and it does u have no control over u government ur people or contraception thats why ur country is like that and it is polluted and i love my country not like it and i would never go to another country thats crap u go out of ur country becuse u made it what it is??????????
Title: Re: FAMILY PLANNING/BIRTH CONTROL
Post by mylane on Dec 9th, 2004, 11:36am

on 12/09/04 at 10:21:28, nelson3082000 wrote:
hahah i like my spelling and it does u have no control over u government ur people or contraception thats why ur country is like that and it is polluted and i love my country not like it and i would never go to another country thats crap u go out of ur country becuse u made it what it is??????????


Have you ever been to the Philippines? It seems that you talk like you know alot about our government and the filipinos including way of living here? Make sure that before you comment on a certain countries make sure you do your reseach enough and all you stated here are based on facts rather that opinion cause your talking about the majority.

back to the topic:

Filipinos are generally afraid of the moral and cultural backlash of abortion, that they may likely seek to prevent pregnancy rather than eliminate it.
Title: Re: FAMILY PLANNING/BIRTH CONTROL
Post by kim on Dec 10th, 2004, 3:57am
Umm could you pls explain why taking pills is a sin? A birth contro pill does not kill the fetus because there is no fetus to start with. It pevernts your body from being fertile so that you wont get preggy in the first place and you wont have to think of abortion.

I do not understand the church's stand about these kind of contraceptives. Can someone pls explain?

There have been reports here in PI and in other countries that pills have been made specificaly to make the female steril and prolonged use can actualy prevent you from not having a baby even if you already want to. But these are just speculations and no official reports have been published about this said topic.

Most of the side effects of pills are migranes and weight gain. BUt nothing serious unless you have specific alergies with some of the components of the pill. The proper way of taking pills is to first consult your OB about it. Because different person needs different kinds. I started using the pill when i had a miscarriage about 3 years ago. And the one i'm using is actually not listed as a birth control pill. It is a hormonal pill intended to cure severe acne. But since it is a hormonal pill, it alters the cycle and prevent you from getting pregnant. It has no side effects and it even makes my skin smoother  ;)... And when the time comes that i am ready to have my own child and i stop using the pill, it will also have no effect on the child (Pills do not cause abnormalities on children unless taken in large amounts while pregnant). I dont take the pill because i have sex with every guy i date. I am actually sexless as of the moment  ;D... But if I ever fall inlove with a guy and we make love i know that i wont get pregnant unless i want too.  ;)
Title: Re: FAMILY PLANNING/BIRTH CONTROL
Post by teagirl on Dec 10th, 2004, 7:00am

on 12/10/04 at 03:57:10, kim wrote:
Most of the side effects of pills are migranes and weight gain. BUt nothing serious unless you have specific alergies with some of the components of the pill. The proper way of taking pills is to first consult your OB about it. Because different person needs different kinds. I started using the pill when i had a miscarriage about 3 years ago. And the one i'm using is actually not listed as a birth control pill. It is a hormonal pill intended to cure severe acne. But since it is a hormonal pill, it alters the cycle and prevent you from getting pregnant. It has no side effects and it even makes my skin smoother  ;)... And when the time comes that i am ready to have my own child and i stop using the pill, it will also have no effect on the child (Pills do not cause abnormalities on children unless taken in large amounts while pregnant). I dont take the pill because i have sex with every guy i date. I am actually sexless as of the moment  ;D... But if I ever fall inlove with a guy and we make love i know that i wont get pregnant unless i want too.  ;)


Hi, Kim. I totally enjoy your opinions and I even agree to some. However, I felt the need to speak up regarding pills. From a medical standpoint, I would like to point out that underestimating the adverse effects of pills can be very misleading. "Nothing serious," as you stated, horrified me because if anything, I don't advocate the use of pills as a contraception. There are other ways, like tubal ligation, well, of course, this is a semi-permanent one in that the patient may never be able to bear children anymore. But that's beside the point. My issues with pills are that  pills are hormonal treatments that can be touted as the culprit of aggravated signs and symptoms in patients with high cholesterol levels, hypertension, liver disease, darkening of skin and cancer. And most of all, pills and smoking are a big no-no. Pills and cigarettes increase the risks of stroke, blood clots, high blood pressure, gall bladder disease, and heart attacks. I am horrified to think that these risks are being overlooked and not considered as prime reasons not to look for other form of contraception. I would like to emphasize though an individual might inadvertently consider pills as harmless thingees because when a patient has stroke, we think its the high blood pressure and we don't think of the causative factors underlying the condition. The bottom line is, pills can kill you. It is a serious matter to be taking pills and your health might be compromised.

I can only surmise that the church's issue regarding pill is because the hormonal action of the pill is an abortifacient---meaning it can cause abortion. If the egg had been fertilized by the sperm, it becomes an embryo (therefore a potential person) and for it to survive, it has to attach to the lining of the uterus for nourishment to become a fetus. The action of the pill will prevent the uterus from developing a normal lining, hence, the fertilized egg (read: human being) has no place to attach, won't get any nourishment, and in consequence, become aborted.

But you are right also in saying that there won't be an embryo in the first place because the egg, with the action of the pill doesn't mature---hence, this is what we call "failure to mature," but there are instances of "breakthrough ovulations" (meaning the egg does mature). And the pill will kill whatever son or daughter that had been formed because pills are chemical abortions.

This is why the church is against pills.

I hope I have clarified some issues regarding the pill. :)
Title: Re: FAMILY PLANNING/BIRTH CONTROL
Post by mylane on Dec 10th, 2004, 9:00am
Thanks for the wonderful information, May ;)


on 12/10/04 at 03:57:10, kim wrote:
I do not understand the church's stand about these kind of contraceptives. Can someone pls explain?


Being a predominantly Christian country, goes against the saying, "Be fruitful and multiply." Thats why church are castigating the promotion of contraceptives (pills, etc etc).
Title: Re: FAMILY PLANNING/BIRTH CONTROL
Post by kim on Dec 10th, 2004, 9:46am
May thanks for the info.  ;)... About the health issues i've been told bout that n my OB said that with my current health i am in no seriouse health risk in taking pills. By the way i am using diane  ;D. I think you know that....

And about the explanation with the abortion thing. Well i didn't know that till now. My first OB was pro life and didnt adviced me to take pills but she never actually gave me any alternative and didn't explain why she is against it. And my second OB gave me pills primarily to regulate my periods. But Since I was sexually active at that time she adviced me to continue using it....

May besides ligation (because i would want to have a baby someday  ;D) what other kinds of contraceptives are accepted by pro life groups? I'm guessing you are pro life doc  ;D... Aw n pls dont say no sex before marriage  :'( ;D
Title: Re: FAMILY PLANNING/BIRTH CONTROL
Post by kim on Dec 10th, 2004, 9:50am

on 12/09/04 at 10:21:28, nelson3082000 wrote:
hahah i like my spelling and it does u have no control over u government ur people or contraception thats why ur country is like that and it is polluted and i love my country not like it and i would never go to another country thats crap u go out of ur country becuse u made it what it is??????????


Nelson sweetie... Yes its true that PI has many problems and many corrupt officials but it is not fair to judge the countries beauty if you havent seen everything. We have so many things to offer and most specially we have the friendliest people. Thats why americans and australians prefer filipino nurses because we take care of your people with out hearts
Title: Re: FAMILY PLANNING/BIRTH CONTROL
Post by teagirl on Dec 10th, 2004, 11:02pm

on 12/10/04 at 09:46:09, kim wrote:
May thanks for the info.  ;)... About the health issues i've been told bout that n my OB said that with my current health i am in no seriouse health risk in taking pills. By the way i am using diane  ;D. I think you know that....

And about the explanation with the abortion thing. Well i didn't know that till now. My first OB was pro life and didnt adviced me to take pills but she never actually gave me any alternative and didn't explain why she is against it. And my second OB gave me pills primarily to regulate my periods. But Since I was sexually active at that time she adviced me to continue using it....

May besides ligation (because i would want to have a baby someday  ;D) what other kinds of contraceptives are accepted by pro life groups? I'm guessing you are pro life doc  ;D... Aw n pls dont say no sex before marriage  :'( ;D


Well, Kim, I always tell patients this: You alone know your body and what may work for some, may not work for you. The doctors are there in a way that they help you interpret whatever it is that you don't understand your body anymore when every function has gone haywire. Make a judgment call for your health's sake. Just because someone is telling you that you are not at risk, try to do some observations regarding your body and of course, it is imperative that you do research in your family too. If you have a family history of high blood pressure, diabetes, heart disease or cancer, then the pill is not good for you. Make a judgment call. If you smoke,  make a judgment  call. Its your body,  your health and your future. The risks are there like a sword  hanging over your head. You are practically giving yourself the license to slowly kill yourself if you are positive for family history of the previously mentioned diseases.

Please don't misunderstand my anti-pill advocacy because I'm pro-life. My point here is to emphasize that pills are never wise. And  to add to that, procreation is a two-party system. I think the responsibility of contraception should not just fall on the woman alone. The man has to think of these things  too. I mean,  he can have his fun while you are reaping the adverse effects of pills? Oh, cmon. Let him in on the responsibility too. Let him use condoms---not only do you prevent any form of conception, you also protect  yourself from  whatever diseases he might give you. You'd think a man is clean because he is not showing  signs and symptoms of a disease but there are those who are asymptomatic---they have  the disease but no  signs and symptoms and the statistics are staggering. There are quite a number of  men who are asymtomatic. Frankly, before I consent to have sex with anyone, we should have a date at the laboratory to get him examined and get his  bodily fluids tested  and cultured. And I'm only talking about STD's. I haven't even began talking about cervical cancer that a man can inadvertently give to a woman during sex. But thats another topic.

But I understand that sex is an instinctive human action. If you can't and won't go through celibacy, or no sex  before marriage, can't have tubal ligation, and your partner can't have vasectomy, then  I  suggest you have the physical barrier  method: condoms, cervical caps, diaphragms. Of  course, they won't be as effective  as  the pill but at  least,  you are not signing  your  death warrant.

But all in all, it will always boil down to this: Its your body, its your choice. My only contention is, before you make  your choice, arm yourself with information so you won't be misled, misinformed and mistaken.

And lastly, yes,  I'm Pro-life (I thought the word doctor is synonymous with pro-life) but I advocate birth control/family planning in that every parent has a responsibility of providing for all the needs of his children, not only emotionally but materially as well. To bear more children and not be able to feed  and educate them, I think, in my humble opinion, is a sin as grave as abortion itself.



Title: Re: FAMILY PLANNING/BIRTH CONTROL
Post by kim on Dec 13th, 2004, 7:18am
May i just discovered somethig... THe head of St. lukes OB-gyn just said that myoma (did i spell that right) may be caused my hormone pills... Somethign that my doctor forgot to tell be even before i started using pills.. So now i'm kinda scared and already scheduling a check up from another OB.  :'( :(
Title: Re: FAMILY PLANNING/BIRTH CONTROL
Post by teagirl on Dec 13th, 2004, 9:06am

on 12/13/04 at 07:18:44, kim wrote:
May i just discovered somethig... THe head of St. lukes OB-gyn just said that myoma (did i spell that right) may be caused my hormone pills... Somethign that my doctor forgot to tell be even before i started using pills.. So now i'm kinda scared and already scheduling a check up from another OB.  :'( :(


Hello once again, Kim. The exact cause of myoma is unknown but there is a very big correlation between its formation and increased levels of estrogen. Myomas first become apparent after menarche (first menstruation), enlarge during pregnancy, and regress after the menopause. During our reproductive years, the predominant hormone that governs the female function is the estrogen. The same estrogen that is component in the pill. Therefore, pills should be avoided if you already have a myoma. I think that is what the doctor from St. Luke's wished to convey.
Title: Re: MYOMA
Post by Analyn on Dec 13th, 2004, 12:18pm
A friend was disabled because she had her myoma removed...not that the removal of it directly caused it...but the process she underwent and during the administration of anesthesia. Hence, I once asked a surgeon if is it really needed to remove the myoma.. He told me that it's ok not to remove it... only, newly hired doctors or those still wanting to experience on how to operate will easily recommend operation or removal... so gals, let your myoma grow..unless it really bother you...  ;D but was the surgeon really serious? well, i think he was  ;D he's one of the known surgeon here though  ;)
Title: Re: MYOMA
Post by teagirl on Dec 14th, 2004, 5:36am

on 12/13/04 at 12:18:04, Analyn wrote:
A friend was disabled because she had her myoma removed...not that the removal of it directly caused it...but the process she underwent and during the administration of anesthesia. Hence, I once asked a surgeon if is it really needed to remove the myoma.. He told me that it's ok not to remove it... only, newly hired doctors or those still wanting to experience on how to operate will easily recommend operation or removal... so gals, let your myoma grow..unless it really bother you...  ;D but was the surgeon really serious? well, i think he was  ;D he's one of the known surgeon here though  ;)


Hi, Ana! Wow. I'm so glad you jumped in. I like this discussion already. Well, let me start...

Any kind of surgery, no matter how easy, poses risks to the patient. By some strange twist of fate, what maybe "harmless" to a number of people (who underwent myomectomy), may not be true to a few. This goes to show that each one of us is unique, not only in our ways but in our physical constitution.

I think what the surgeon wished to say was if its not symptomatic (meaning not giving you any problems) then you have an option to let it stay there and not think about myomectomy. But if the myoma, has become a problem to the woman, then it is imperative that it should be removed. So what are the clues that should prod a woman to undergo myomectomy? Here are a few:

-bleeding or excessively heavy menstrual period
-wishing to conceive, but can't
-increasing abdominal girth
-abdominal pain

If a woman with myoma feels any of those symptoms listed above, then she should undergo myomectomy. I think the surgeon's remark was a little careless in that he didn't explain further the pros and cons of having or not having a myomectomy. And besides, if he was a surgeon and not a gynecologist (its the gynecologists who are permitted to perform myomectomy)  then he was definitely out of line.

I'm sorry to hear about your friend. I hope she is doing better now.
Title: Re: FAMILY PLANNING/BIRTH CONTROL
Post by Analyn on Dec 14th, 2004, 12:35pm
Mayy, thanks.. I knew he wanted to tell me those things too, but that question was only asked a year after what happened to our friend... so he knew that I was not really that serious to know... but he did mention something like "if it really don't bother you, then don't undergo operation (myomectomy)...

It really is great to have a doctor like you around  ;)... remember what I said... "You will always be a doctor" to me... license is just a piece of paper... what counts most is what you know and your willingness to serve... what you just shared to us is just one of those proofs  that you have this real doctor in you...  ;)

wish you can be convinced to start a topic with "The Doctor is In"  ;)
Title: Re: FAMILY PLANNING/BIRTH CONTROL
Post by teagirl on Dec 15th, 2004, 2:09am

on 12/14/04 at 12:35:11, Analyn wrote:
Mayy, thanks.. I knew he wanted to tell me those things too, but that question was only asked a year after what happened to our friend... so he knew that I was not really that serious to know... but he did mention something like "if it really don't bother you, then don't undergo operation (myomectomy)...

It really is great to have a doctor like you around  ;)... remember what I said... "You will always be a doctor" to me... license is just a piece of paper... what counts most is what you know and your willingness to serve... what you just shared to us is just one of those proofs  that you have this real doctor in you...  ;)

wish you can be convinced to start a topic with "The Doctor is In"  ;)



Aiii, I dont think I'm qualified, Ana. But thanks for the vote of confidence. :)
Title: Re: FAMILY PLANNING/BIRTH CONTROL
Post by norkay on Dec 15th, 2004, 6:18am

on 12/15/04 at 02:09:29, teagirl wrote:
Aiii, I dont think I'm qualified, Ana. But thanks for the vote of confidence. :)


I am casting(or endorsement?) my vote as well May, despite of sharing us the enjoyment in reading your blog, you are really a big help in this kind of threads. ;) ;D....many questions are awaiting May.....we can't afford going to the doctors all the time we have health problems.I am sure others want to cast their "pro" votes. ;) ;D
Title: Re: FAMILY PLANNING/BIRTH CONTROL
Post by gracia on Feb 16th, 2005, 10:24am
I wish a "doctor is in" blog too and wants May to sit there. She had been a big help to me for a couple of times, when my kids got sick.  Though i don't want to seek her talent most often, coz that would mean my kids will often get sick too...God forbid.  Only when things is out of hand.

Go Doki go.....
Title: Re: FAMILY PLANNING/BIRTH CONTROL
Post by kim on Feb 17th, 2005, 6:17am
May it would be a big help if you opened a tread so that you can help us with some of our medical problems  ;D ;)
Title: Re: FAMILY PLANNING/BIRTH CONTROL
Post by nelson3082000 on Feb 17th, 2005, 6:44am
but to educate costs money and what i ahve read the goverment is not willing to do this kris, its about like you said putting systems in place to allow all options so that the world dont have poverty  with to many kids living on the streets and getting into prostitution and also making the parents resposible for what they do not running away form responsiblity.
Title: Re: FAMILY PLANNING/BIRTH CONTROL
Post by kim on Mar 15th, 2005, 5:13am
each and every adult has a responsbility to atleast teach the young ones about family plannig. It doesnt matter how when or where you explain it just as long as they get the idea that responsible parenting is a vital key for any country to survive.
Title: Re: FAMILY PLANNING/BIRTH CONTROL
Post by Wicked_Witch on Aug 17th, 2005, 5:18pm
I always think that laws are made to guide us, not govern out lives. Personally, as a woman I wouldn't want to have more than 2 or 3 children even if I can afford to support a dozen or more. If I have more money, I think I will just adopt some more. Some parents don't have a sense of what is good or what is bad, not what is right or wrong. Because having babies are not wrong, no matter how many, specially if they are from legally married parents, but its UNFAIR. I dont think the church meant to tell us what to do. They are merely advicing us on what they think is best. Ditto with the government. I think more than the church, the government has the more responsibilities when it comes to child-rearing, between the two, I mean. Afterall, it is the one who should shoulder the job of educating them, giving jobs to their parents, providing medical care for them, and so on. Natural method are not advisable for people who lives in the remote areas such as small towns or provinces because most of the time these people are not the working class. More often than not they dont really care if they get pregnant or not. And they also dont mind if they have many or few children . They just go along with the carnal cravings of their bodies. Because their lives do not go beyond their everyday existence. No matter how much the people concerned try to educate them, its just very hard for them to understand why they should not have a big family. So the best choice for these people are birth control methods. I read earlier in some posts on this thread that giving birth is better than having an abortion. But the issue here is not abortion, its controlling the pregnancy before it gets out of hands. Going back to the issue, I don't know of anyone who uses the family planning method.


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