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(Message started by: kim on Jul 19th, 2005, 12:17pm)

Title: Problem of the Filipinos...
Post by kim on Jul 19th, 2005, 12:17pm
On our way to singapore i was litening to a denate on wether the rot of the problem in PI is management or discipline? who's to blame for what is happening to our country? The government who cannot manage the country right or the ppl who could not follows the rules right?

Post away

Title: Re: Problem of the Filipinos...
Post by mylane on Jul 19th, 2005, 5:55pm
both are to blame....

To be specific when it comes to government, our senate the only part of the world where you can find Drug-Lords/Kidnappers, Comedians, Coupplotters, Dull Actors, Gay-Pedophiles, Basketball-bully being called,"YOUR HONOR".

Italy has 10 porn actors/actresses in its government. They're all doing fine. I think we should vote for prostitutes next time.  ;D I'M NOT JOKING.

The media is one of the major group to be blame too.  Filipinos pay much attention to the political shit provided for us by different personalities and they could not have done it without the media. Instead of letting the public know that the Philippines is not hopeless and that there is a very big opportunity for recovery.

Title: Re: Problem of the Filipinos...
Post by kim on Jul 20th, 2005, 5:23am
i agree with you mymy that the problem is both ways. In a democratic government the people are given freedom to express themselve but what they dont understand is that with freedom comes responsibilities.

to be continued...

Title: Re: Problem of the Filipinos...
Post by mylane on Jul 20th, 2005, 5:39am

on 07/20/05 at 05:23:57, kim wrote:
i agree with you mymy that the problem is both ways. In a democratic government the people are given freedom to express themselve but what they dont understand is that with freedom comes responsibilities.

to be continued...


here we go again in kimmy's famous line "to be continued"

hey it is all started with a simple to be continued though....hahahaha ;D

Title: Re: Problem of the Filipinos...
Post by kim on Jul 22nd, 2005, 10:16am
well hey mymy that seem sto work you know... Look at what happened to the hello garci thread?  ;D

Title: Re: Problem of the Filipinos...
Post by Wicked_Witch on Jul 26th, 2005, 5:15am
I'd say its Management. Remember the Martial Law days? Marcos has everyone under control and it works.I mean for a while we leave in a peaceful surroundings coz of the curfew hours. Up to these days, I cant help but wish that along with his Dictatorship...if only he has not been so eaten up by greed, If only he used some if not all of those wealth they have accumulated for the good of the Filipino people, he would be world famous for his noble deed. He will be worshipped by all. And the Filipino people would be holding their head up high to the rest of the world. And he had the chance.**Sigh**. See? Its management first and discipline will follow. ;D

Title: Re: Problem of the Filipinos...
Post by earthlingorgeous on Jul 26th, 2005, 12:46pm
hmmmmm

Title: Re: Problem of the Filipinos...
Post by gracia on Jul 27th, 2005, 11:10am
Problem of the Filipinos are that we are poor and we are greedy.  At the slightest opportunity to make money, due to immense need mostly people will grab at it.  I don't know when it was started but it's unstoppable now.  Just like my status here in this forum ---beyond redemption--.  But there are always exceptions...i know there are good and honest people out there..but still they can't influence the bad to be good merely because they were outnumbered.  The greedy will be more greedy and the poor will become poorer.  I don't think this problem will be solve soon...unless there's total conversion of all leaders in the country, if they can put aside their selfish motives and probably share a little of their excesses then we might can see a light out from this dark tunnel we live in.

Title: Re: Problem of the Filipinos...
Post by Wicked_Witch on Jul 27th, 2005, 12:58pm
That is right, Grace. But it's still management coz the choice is between the two. If the government will do something to alleviate the sufferings of the filipinos, like s job for every head of the family, Im sure life would be better for us. Because there is going to be a chain reaction. I dont believe there is anyone who enjoys going against the law just to get hold of some money. And when the belly is full, they will have the ability to think clearly. And with a clear mind and full belly..they will REALLY exercise their rights to vote...not sell it...and KNOW who to vote for.

Title: Re: Problem of the Filipinos...
Post by Forgettable on Jul 27th, 2005, 1:17pm
They are both to be blamed.One of the worst problems is,many or most of the Philippine goverment officials are very manipulative while the citizens ,especially the poor, are easily manipulated.....especially by money.

Title: Re: Problem of the Filipinos...
Post by Wicked_Witch on Jul 28th, 2005, 3:51am

on 07/27/05 at 13:17:40, Forgettable wrote:
They are both to be blamed.One of the worst problems is,many or most of the Philippine goverment officials are very manipulative while the citizens ,especially the poor, are easily manipulated.....especially by money.




Im not saying the blame lies only on the government. Of course the people plays a big part in whatever mess we are in right now. Im just saying its up to the management or the government to discipline its people. They are easy to manipulate because they have nothing to fight back with. Sometimes not even morales. Right now the game is "survival of the fittest". Its really sad, but its reality.

Title: Re: Problem of the Filipinos...
Post by kim on Jul 28th, 2005, 11:49am
sad to say that discipline is very heard to teach specially if the one teacing it doesnt know what it means. But as responsible citizens we should do our part in the progress of our country. We should practice self discipline andwe should respect ourselfs before other will learn to respect us. At the same time the government is like the parents of the country. IT s their duty to impose rules and make sure that they are followed. At the same time they should lead by example. THERE SHOULD BE SOME LEVEL OF FEAR TO THE GOVERNMENT OR ELSE THEY WILL JUST GET MOCKED OVER N OVER AGAIN... So once again i say... MARTIAL LAW!!!

Title: Re: Problem of the Filipinos...
Post by Wicked_Witch on Jul 31st, 2005, 9:27am
THERE SHOULD BE SOME LEVEL OF FEAR TO THE GOVERNMENT OR ELSE THEY WILL JUST GET MOCKED OVER N OVER AGAIN... So once again i say... MARTIAL LAW!!!


I am in agreement  to that If it will restore some peace and quiet around here. I think that what our country needs is just ONE ruler. Too many cooks spoil the broth, they say ;DBut I do hope that whoever it is that will lead us will really takes care of the problems at hand.

Title: Re: Problem of the Filipinos...
Post by kim on Aug 1st, 2005, 8:28am
yehey!!!! MARTIAL LAW!!! I'd proclaim it if i was the president  ;) But hey if it was me i'd not abuse it n lift the martial law when everyone is already behaving  :D

Title: Re: Problem of the Filipinos...
Post by Wicked_Witch on Aug 2nd, 2005, 3:30am
Come to think of it, they are, aren't they? Its no longer as noisy as it used to be. What happened, the excitement died? [smiley=huepfenicon111.gif]And hey....did u hear about the new development? Some guy surfaced to testify against GMA...how convenient...dont u people think? ;DTrying hard, eh? ;D



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