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(Message started by: kim on Jul 25^th, 2005, 6:40pm)

Title: Dance to the CHA CHA
Post by kim on Jul 25^th, 2005, 6:40pm

For definitions click on the site
http://www.answers.com/topic/federal
http://www.answers.com/topic/parliament

GMA recently stated in her SONA (state of the nation address) that she is for charter change. Although she had mentioned that she is for parliamentary form that is yet to be seen. SO now there will be a big debate on this... Wich one do you think would be best for the Philippines, Parliamentary or Federal?

Post away....

Aw n before i forget.... TO BE CONTINUED
;D ;)

Title: Re: Dance to the CHA CHA
Post by Wicked_Witch on Jul 26^th, 2005, 4:41am

I really dont see what difference it would make. All I want is someone who can rule the country with an iron hand and a heart that belongs to the people.

Title: Re: Dance to the CHA CHA
Post by kim on Jul 26^th, 2005, 8:32am

I am open to a charter change but the mistake that they will be doing is putting the same old "TRAPO" traditional politician in power which will not change anything.

Title: Re: Dance to the CHA CHA
Post by mylane on Jul 26^th, 2005, 9:04am

I'll bite on this one later kimpot. This is going to be another interesting thread but let the others post first. ;D

Title: Re: Dance to the CHA CHA
Post by gracia on Jul 26^th, 2005, 12:07pm

good thing i'm out of school now..i'm not oblige to read and research.. [smiley=computer.gif]...anyhow, i'll try to gather some info's, maybe there's something i can contribute.

Title: Re: Dance to the CHA CHA
Post by kim on Jul 28^th, 2005, 11:05am

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Dance to the CHA CHA
Post by mylane on Aug 5^th, 2005, 11:35am

charter change or cha cha is not the solution to the political crisis that we are currently having.

to be continued ;D

Title: Re: Dance to the CHA CHA
Post by Wicked_Witch on Aug 6^th, 2005, 3:39am

GMA is for cha-cha coz it will buy her more time which by then she has hoped to change the people's mind about her unsuitability as a Leader. Like I said, Im pro-GMA so what can I say?

Title: Re: Dance to the CHA CHA
Post by mylane on Aug 6^th, 2005, 7:35am

on 08/06/05 at 03:39:09, Wicked_Witch wrote:

GMA is for cha-cha coz it will buy her more time which by then she has hoped to change the people's mind about her unsuitability as a Leader. Like I said, Im pro-GMA so what can I say?

I have nothing against to those GMA fanatics as long as they can support their being fanatical. Ok, that would be in another thread not in the chacha thread though.

Changing the name Congressman with Minister will still not make better laws if the same corrupt officials run for office and can also same craft legislations that favor their own interests.

What we need to do is to change the people elected into office. We can all do that by putting more resources in informing the public about choosing the right candidate and ensuring that elections are honestly conducted and fair to all so that we have a chance to directly change the face of our today's politics, and not only change the SEAT COVER.

We should do the following:

1. Reconstruct the electoral process to ensure no cheating will take place

2. Reconstruct the framework of allowing only qualified candidates to run

Title: Re: Dance to the CHA CHA
Post by mylane on Aug 6^th, 2005, 7:41am

on 07/25/05 at 18:40:47, kim wrote:

For definitions click on the site
http://www.answers.com/topic/federal
http://www.answers.com/topic/parliament

Parliamentary or Federal?

As I remember, we used to have a parliamentary form in the early 80's with Cesar Virata as our Prime Minister and Marcos as our President.

The cabinet leaders were called Ministers and we had Assemblymen in our legislative body.

In a Parliamentary form of government, the president should just be a symbol or figure head and the Prime Minister as the head of the state, but then again Marcos was still the one controlling the laws and the other government functions so nothing happened still with that kind of government.

Title: Re: Dance to the CHA CHA
Post by mylane on Aug 6^th, 2005, 7:47am

on 07/26/05 at 08:32:02, kim wrote:

I am open to a charter change but the mistake that they will be doing is putting the same old "TRAPO" traditional politician in power which will not change anything.

I agree.

Lets bet on this, I think that when we finally have a parliamentary form of government, Joe De Venecia (aka Master Yoda since they are look alike) or Fidel Ramos will be the Prime Minister and their DOGS/minions will have unlimited power.

That's the bottom line of the present intense agitation to change the constitution.

Title: Re: Dance to the CHA CHA
Post by Wicked_Witch on Aug 8^th, 2005, 2:06am

on 08/06/05 at 07:47:39, mylane wrote:

I'll take it to mean you dont like both of them? Yeah, I did wonder why FVR did not try to get re-elected after his terms? Maybe he's trying to "feel" the people first. No wonder he's still around making as much noise as he can. But he was a good leader though during his terms, right? Though I always thought of him as a "weakling". Well, there has to be a lesser evil between him and JDV?

Title: Re: Dance to the CHA CHA
Post by mylane on Aug 8^th, 2005, 11:52am

FVR a good leader...hahaha! made me laugh....the EL BIYAHERO president. Where was he during the trial of Flor Contemplacion? He was out of the country. He could have saved her if he go to singapore personally and talk with the SG leader. What a good president he was then...hahaha. How ironic...

Going back during FVR terms, lots of companies especially those garment factories was closed because of the open market or globalization I forgot the exact term. As an example of this is the Marikina Shoe factory, due to the products from HK which are very cheap, the consumers settle for this HK merchandise that made those Pinoy factories closed.

The only thing that was good during FVR terms was he managed to made a solution for the power problem (brownout) during Cory Aquino terms.

Going back to the topic about cha cha...like i said in my previous post... changing the form of government will not change the substance.

Title: Re: Dance to the CHA CHA
Post by Wicked_Witch on Aug 19^th, 2005, 3:55am

Things are finally looking good in your favor these days I think, Mymy ;D

Title: Re: Dance to the CHA CHA
Post by kim on Aug 26^th, 2005, 6:57am

They say that the system is no longer working thats why they want a charter change. I for one know that a democratic for is NOT working at all. I am for the parliamentary because it will lessen the chances of having an idiot in office. THe problem with a democratic country is that when the people dont understan there responsibilities and just asserts their so called rights we become a democrazy country. I am sorry to say that ignorant ppl dont deserve to have the right to vote. FYI: education is not the sole basis of being wise or ignorant. There are so many college graduates who are more ignorant than those street vendors selling green mangoes n bagoong ( hhmmm yummy by the way ;D ;) ). When i turned 18 i was proud to be at a legal age so i can vote for who i want. Because it is my RIGHT to vote but it is also my RESPONSIBILITY to vote wisely and not waste or sell my vote. CHANGE SHOULD START WITHIN US BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT FORM OF GOVERNMENT WE CHOOSE THE FAITH OF OUT COUNTRY LIES IN ALL OF US.

Title: Re: Dance to the CHA CHA
Post by Wicked_Witch on Aug 30^th, 2005, 3:19am

I think everybody wants to see an able governing power. But the problem with the less fortunate is that they are making their family their first priority during elections. They have to sell votes to make both ends meet. Then too, there's the election scams. So no matter how much we try our best to vote wisely, and to convince other people to do the same, we still end up short. Crazy Philippines, eh?What to do? What to do? [smiley=wall.gif]

Title: Re: Dance to the CHA CHA
Post by kim on Aug 30^th, 2005, 9:42am

thats why a parliament form will be better coz then the priminister wont be voted by the mass public

Title: Re: Dance to the CHA CHA
Post by earthlingorgeous on Aug 30^th, 2005, 10:25am

Well well well...

All I can say is that it is really high time for a change in our constitution... some laws we have are not so applicable in the present times ...

But but but....
despite GMA announcing on her SONA that its high time for that... she did not allocate funds for it on the budget...jeeeeeeeeez...

Title: Re: Dance to the CHA CHA
Post by Wicked_Witch on Aug 31^st, 2005, 1:28am

I am all for the Parliamentary system also. This get back to the question of WHO is fit and able to rule, eh? And too, let's hope that those in power to appoint a new leader would do so without vested interests but for the common good of the people.

Title: Re: Dance to the CHA CHA
Post by kim on Aug 31^st, 2005, 7:59am

If only there was one person who is patriotic, honest and able to be the president then i'd be the first one to vote for her/him. But i guess thats wishing too much huh? I dont know what the solution is to this damned rotten political system of ours. All i know is that in able for us to recover we need to change the system plus we ourselves need to take responsiblitity for our own actions and strive to do the best we can for our country.